When i get the the Hanger 9 Alpha Trainer RTF, does it come with everything?(except gas)
-what Gas do i need to get?
-Where can I get the gas ( if it is not like car gas)?

THANKS,
Robby

I would recommend a 12 volt hobby battery, electric starter, electric fuel pump and a glow igniter with battery. You will also need a gallon jug of glow fuel. Get the cheap stuff you will be ok with it.

You can buy flight boxes that include everything you need: 12v battery, electric starter, fuel pump, power panel, glow starter, 12v battery charger, and the selected flight box. Towerhobbies carries them and so does hobbypeople. Just check out the flight boxes you want.
Clint

And he's right. The cheap still will do you fine, but once you know that you're going to stick with it and stuff, i'd update my corded glow starter to a noncorded electric starter. That way you don't have the cord in the way of the prop. However, I'd still hang onto the corded one as a back up, as the noncorded ones run off of a rechargeable nicad battery.

I agree, except I'd get a manual fuel pump, so if you want to attach a battery to the starter to make everything more portable, you can.

Glow fuel with 10% nitro is pretty standard, and most hobby shops should carry (if they have any RC stuff).

There are a couple other things you SHOULD get; AMA membership, club membership AND an instructor!

Good luck,
Dennis-

so...i can do
The Actual Alpha Trainer RTF
glow starter- http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXD702&P=7
12 v battery- http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXSK07&P=7
electric starter- can't find one
fuel pump- http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXVZ41&P=7
power panel- http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFKZ1&P=7
charger- http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXJC38&P=7
Glow fuel with 10% nitro - Venture Hobbies (my hobbie store)
AMA Membership
Club membership


Does any one know what electric starter i need, and if all these parts are compatible with the plane and with each other.


Thanks,
Robby

i bought a hanger9 xtra easy and wanted to keep the cost of field equipment as low as i could i bought some of the things i needed off ebay. but i did need to goto the local hobby store for a lot of it. i went to hobby town USA and bought a package that included everything else i needed i,e field box, hobbico torque master 90 electric starter, glow plug igniter (which was a corded one but i told them i wanted one without the cord and they exchanged the one that came with it for the cordless one). i think this cost me around $90 but if you look around you can get everything a lot cheaper than that. as for your starter goto www.hobbico.com

Well, here's the starter I bought when I first got into this 8 years ago, it still works very well, and I've started engines up to 1.20 four strokes without trouble.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXJC35&P=0

I would highly recommend that you get a 7 amp battery, rather than the 4.5 amp you linked to.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXL370&P=V

The other option for a battery pack for the starter would be to buy two 6 cell RC car battery packs and wire them into the starter. They can be mounted to the bottom easily, and will work very well. In order to do that, you would have to get a manual (hand cranked) fuel pump.
This one would be fine.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXMA93&P=0

The glow igniter you linked to would be fine. You will also need about 3 feet of fuel line, an extra prop or two, and an extra glow plug in case (OS A3 plug would be good).

Best of luck,
Dennis-

isn't the Alpha Trainer Glow Powerd? WHy do i need all these batterys and chargers and battery packs for a gas plane?

Yes it is Glow Powered. You do not NEED all that stuff. Most of them fall under the "nice to have" category. After a while, you will probably get them anyway.

What is needed? The following items:
1. Chicken stick. Wooden stick with rubber on one end. This is used to flip the prop to start the engine. Do not flip a prop by hand to start it. That would be like starting your lawn mower by fliping the blade by hand. Just don't do it on the small glow planes.
2. Glow igniter. There are 3 kinds that I know of: cord from power panel, rechargable, and C or D alkaline battery. My preference: rechargable, then alkaline. I have both a rechargable and an alkaline for a backup.
3. Glow fuel. Get it at the hobby shop. They should point you to the airplane fuel. Don't get helicopter or car fuel. There are different percentages of nitro methane and oil for each portion of RC.
4. Fuel pump. I use the manual Dave Brown products one that attaches to the side of the glow fuel jug with velcro strap.
5. Expanded scale voltmeter (ESV) and appropriate cords. Used to check the battery level of your receiver and transmitter. An ESV puts a small load on the battery, so it gives a more accurate reading than a regular volt meter.

Probably will need soon:
Spare props. Get the same size as what comes on your trainer. Mine came with a wood prop that broke when I was practicing taxiing. I replaced with the black Master Airscrew.
Spare glow plugs. Get the same type as what comes, unless your instructor or someone that you trust tells you differently.
4 Way wrench. This is used to tighten glow plugs and props.

Nice To Haves:

Flight box. Used to store spare props, tools, glow plugs, rubber bands, fuel jug, etc. I have a Hobbico one now, but when I started I just used a Home Depot plastic tool tray.
Electric starter. This spins the prop spinner to start the engine. Easier than flipping, especially for some engines. I have one, but rarely use it now that I have my engines broken in. Set needle valve according to directions, prime, and flip 2 - 3 times to start.
Rapid field charger. Used to recharge batteries from a 12v DC source (field box battery, car battery, etc.)

I am probably forgetting something (or more than one thing). Ask your instructor when you get to the field.

I wouldn't do a manual fuel pump, if it were me. When I first started, I bought an electric pump. It's fairly easy to break off the handle on the manual ones. On the electric ones, you just have to worry about bumping the switch.
Clint

Get the H9 start up kit.
http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...?prod=HANSTART


4 way wrench
Manual fuel pump
2 glow plugs that will work in you evolution engine.
Chicken stick
Glo starter w/charger.

It comes with bare bones neccesities to get your plane flying.
All you will have to have other than this is fuel.

I have seen these around for a little less $$, but this will get you started.
After you become more familiar with the sport you can get into electric starters, power panels, and field chargers.
For now, with this kit, you can get started flying and decide what else you may want to have that are luxuries.

Maybe save a little money in case you dont persue the hobby after your first plane.

Did you join the AMA yet?
If this is your first plane you may want instructions
Having your card will help.

I don't know that a chicken stick is the best way to go for a beginner. They're going to have enough problems just getting the engine run right let alone getting it started with a chicken stick. If I had my pick, I'd always go with the good ol' electric starter. "But that's just me."
Clint

First time my plane fired up i took it to the flying field, and let them start it with a starter,it seemed to turn over a long time before the engine came to life,glad somebody had a electric starter,But after that first day i have been starting it with the chicken stick and it starts real good and is easy.

Yeah, but when your engine doesn't wanna cooperate, like in the winter or cooler weather, an electric starter will be my first choice any day of the year. Furthermore, the larger the engines you get, the harder they are to start, until they get a choke and then you can choke them.

I agree 100% and in time i think he will collect everything he needs unless he buys one already built with all the accessories,one thing i would change is the battery,i would get a dry cell,no tipping over and spilling acid and a dry cell can be mounted upside down or sideways if neccessary.