im still partial to barney. from the simpsons.. cheers

Fwiw, IMAC acrobatic competitions require a pilot figure and an instrument panel of some sort, last I checked.

Scale competitions require a pilot when the plane is in the air, I believe, but the pilot isn't judged as part of the static score, as I understand it.

(I don't fly scale competitions or IMAC competitions, so I haven't kept up with the rules in quite a while)

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I regret to inform you that your nice professional well painted pilot figure is no more of a pilot than Scooby. Neither are really pilots as they do not fly the plane. So I guess they are all payload.

But I suppose a "HEAD + SHOULDER + TORSO" is a pilot, then? What a crock... If you're gonna sneer at other people's fun, at least have the common sense not to contradict yourself in the same post...

Oh.. and BTW, the word "scale" appears nowhere in the orignial post. Excuse us for using this resource as it was meant to be used...

He won't be happy untill that machine from "Honey, I Shurnk The Kids" comes and reduces him down so he will have a real pilot. [sm=stupid.gif]

I don't even want to know where he got the dung beetle from...

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Is the a fact or you opinion? Would scooby cause you to get disqualified in a scale competition?

Its not your biases view that is the problem.


I'm glad you agree, but that isn't consistent with your post with the poop bug.

Sorry to have offended anyone. I have a personal preference for realistic looking pilots in realistic looking planes. But that's just me. I'm still really REALLY new to this hobby so maybe after a few more years I'll loosen up a bit.

you could always say the invisible man is your pilot figure fight? naked i guess? like you said, its personal preference. like those who enjoy straight and level flight, with maybe a loop or roll thrown in for a hoot and a hollar. ill bet they have as much fun as a 130+ mph inverted low pass.. its all good, its all fun. its your personal preference.
Erik

ill bet for the right amount of scooby snacks, roobydooo would 3D like a big dog

abufletcher, Thanks for posting the pictures of the detailed pilots. I for one like them. It's nice to see that much detail in the planes and in models in general. My dad was a modeler for over fifty years and made planes, boats, submarines, and N-scale trains. Mostly trains. He made his own locomotives out of brass and cast parts and sold them around the country. Once he gave me an illustration of an old sea plane to take to school to get enlarged. From that he drew up plans and made it into a flying model with about a four foot wing span. Most people don't take the time for that anymore but it's nice to see that some do. IMO

Here's a shot of the pilot in my just finished scratch-built Fokker EIII.

sorry about my camera, but its funky....

heres a pic of a club members WWI plane.

abufletcher and Richd, Now that's class!!

Edited: Never mind. I read the entire thread and all the revisions that I missed. A guy had a bell 47 helicopter at the field the other day and it was the most scale looking aircraft I had ever seen. Very detailed (I think it was a c 47). Inside the cockpit, there was a tiny chain hanging from the key. The pilots were very nice. These weren't he-man looking action figures. One of them was a a large overweight man with a roll under his chin and the other a normal looking joe. They were wearing jeans and brown leather jackets, not painted on clothing but actual cloth and leather. They looked really nice. I personally would not want tu can sam in that cockpit, but if someone chose to put something like that in a bird they spent so much time on, that's their buisness.

Rich, wow what a beautiful WWI bird. I've been wanting to do an FE2b ever since I saw one at the Planes of Fame Museum out in Chino. Do you happen to know if this was from a kit or plans and if so which?

And here's my pilot "at work."

I will ask the owner about it. I know its one of the best looking WWI planes I have EVER seen. I will also get some higher rez pics of it from someone that has a better camera than what I have.

Fletch,

You didn't offend me, I just found the conflicting statements in your post very... well, er... conflicting.

Bottom line is: If you put in the cockpit, it's a pilot.

The work you have posted is absolutely phenomonal, my own attempts are mostly 10/20 scale. (It looks good from 10 or 20 feet away) The type of scale you engage in is something I look forward to in my retirement, when I'll have time to do it. Too much flying to do right now to worry about the 400 hours in a plane thing.

I look forward to seeing more of your work, with maybe some tips on how you do it...

CYA

I should admit that the reason I feel I can post on the Beginner's forum is because that is EXACTLY what I am -- a rank beginner. I had never flown an RC plane before last January (got my son an electric RTF for Xmas) and just solo'ed about two months ago on my gas trainer. The EIII is my first EVER RC build (scale or otherwise) and I wasn't sure it was even going to fly (it does! yippie!). I had built a lot of Guillow's "hanger queens" as a kid but other than assembing my RCM trainer ARF had no prior experience with RC planes.

I'd describe my plane as "better not look TOO close" scale! The outlines are totally scale (I used technical drawings from the Smithsonian rather than "plans") but the workmanship is less than first class up close. Here's a link to a thread on the Scale forum with a few more pix.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/AbuF...1995167/tm.htm


--Don (AbuFletcher is an Arabic way of forming nicknames and means "Father of Fletcher")

I can't understand that after you took the time to read the entire thread that my spelling is no longer an issue.

Its ok to criticize my spelling if it makes you feel better. I don't mind.

Well wings, after I read the revisions of the other guy about the dung beetle, I didn't want to give the opposing side support. I like reading your posts and deciphering them. It keeps me sharp. I feel like I've accomplished something that few others can do.
I'm only kidding of course.