Good Scale Second Plane
07-25-2002 | 07:15 PM
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Good Scale Second Plane
I am looking for a good second plane. I want to get into scale, so any good scale wecond plane recommendation would be much appreciated.
07-25-2002 | 07:19 PM
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Great Plane's new Fabric-Covered cub.
Or their orriginal cub. Both available in ARF format.
Both are high-wing, but neither are trainers - however I don't see a transitional problem here. Though I'm just training myself, I've watched this hobby from afar for many, many years. Never seen anyone have substantial trouble transitioning.
If you want a trike, go for GP's Cessna 182.
Or their orriginal cub. Both available in ARF format.
Both are high-wing, but neither are trainers - however I don't see a transitional problem here. Though I'm just training myself, I've watched this hobby from afar for many, many years. Never seen anyone have substantial trouble transitioning.
If you want a trike, go for GP's Cessna 182.
07-25-2002 | 07:21 PM
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The Carl Goldburg "Super Chipmunk" is a nice looking plane that is very easy to fly.
I have one that I bought second hand that has the optional flaps and it is a dream to fly. no bad habits and glides down like a trainer.
if you have mastered a trainer and are ready for a low wing you could try this.
it is not the "perfect" second plane but like I said its easy to fly and looks great, just take it easy until you are used to it.
Or a cub is a good second plane... flys like a trainer but looks a whole lot better.
just my $0.02
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I have one that I bought second hand that has the optional flaps and it is a dream to fly. no bad habits and glides down like a trainer.
if you have mastered a trainer and are ready for a low wing you could try this.
it is not the "perfect" second plane but like I said its easy to fly and looks great, just take it easy until you are used to it.
Or a cub is a good second plane... flys like a trainer but looks a whole lot better.
just my $0.02
keep the change
07-25-2002 | 07:30 PM
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"Scale" is a big subject... what does it mean to you?
My preference is for older multi-winged taildraggers, others prefer "warbirds", still others go for more modern aircraft or civilian types. Whatever you choose, make sure you have the flying skills together. Pick something that turns your crank but won't be too difficult to build/fly.
My recommendation is to start with a sport trainer for the type (eg. biplane taildragger). Calculate the wing loading of your scale project (details weigh a lot) and ballast this plane to achieve the same wing loading. This will give some impression of the handling the scale plane will have.
Whatever you do, don't rush it to be ready for an event or simply to have something to fly. Keep in mind that the building is a large part of the enjoyment and any shortcuts you take will detract from your enjoyment when it's finished.
Take the time to plan how you will maintain your aircraft. One of the mistakes I made on my latest project is I have to;
- remove the prop
- remove ~20 odd screws holding the cowl
- remove 5 bolts from the removeable firewall to extract the power unit
- and then remove a fuel-proof flap to change my glowplug.
Personally, I dedicate a separate building board for my scale projects so I don't have to interefere with the build when I need to perform maintenance on another bird. If the flying stable becomes depleted, I interrupt the scale build to get something flying so I don't feel rushed to get the scale build in the air.
Best of luck and welcome to a very rewarding aspect of the hobby!
Jim.
My preference is for older multi-winged taildraggers, others prefer "warbirds", still others go for more modern aircraft or civilian types. Whatever you choose, make sure you have the flying skills together. Pick something that turns your crank but won't be too difficult to build/fly.
My recommendation is to start with a sport trainer for the type (eg. biplane taildragger). Calculate the wing loading of your scale project (details weigh a lot) and ballast this plane to achieve the same wing loading. This will give some impression of the handling the scale plane will have.
Whatever you do, don't rush it to be ready for an event or simply to have something to fly. Keep in mind that the building is a large part of the enjoyment and any shortcuts you take will detract from your enjoyment when it's finished.
Take the time to plan how you will maintain your aircraft. One of the mistakes I made on my latest project is I have to;
- remove the prop
- remove ~20 odd screws holding the cowl
- remove 5 bolts from the removeable firewall to extract the power unit
- and then remove a fuel-proof flap to change my glowplug.
Personally, I dedicate a separate building board for my scale projects so I don't have to interefere with the build when I need to perform maintenance on another bird. If the flying stable becomes depleted, I interrupt the scale build to get something flying so I don't feel rushed to get the scale build in the air.
Best of luck and welcome to a very rewarding aspect of the hobby!
Jim.
07-25-2002 | 07:48 PM
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Yeah.. sure you'll have your own interests. If you wanna run low-wing warbirds, go with the chipmunk right away (trusting the poster that it IS easy to fly - since on a 2nd plane that's still a concern).
If you're into bipe's and scale, I have read the new GP Tigermoth .60 is a great flying bipe. Pretty and priced decently.
If you want BIG warbirds (you want your own B-29) I would suggest that as about a 9th - 13th plane after you can fly a piano with a big Byron on it. They're not especially hard to fly, or so I'm told - but there's more to the hobby than just the airborne stuff.
Note: I fine GP ARF's outstanding. I've built my share and recommend them. Others, however have their preferences. I don't think any of the recommended ARF's or kits out there will really be a problem.
Scale finishing is it's own world. I suggest a cub because I've seen them with REALLY well detailed BIG cockpits. Not just some plastic instrument panel... No... front seat, back seat, internal wiring, headsets, even the internal reinforcement. Other planes can be detailed, too - but I like the open space in the cub... it gives you more room to work. A plus when getting started.
If you're into bipe's and scale, I have read the new GP Tigermoth .60 is a great flying bipe. Pretty and priced decently.
If you want BIG warbirds (you want your own B-29) I would suggest that as about a 9th - 13th plane after you can fly a piano with a big Byron on it. They're not especially hard to fly, or so I'm told - but there's more to the hobby than just the airborne stuff.
Note: I fine GP ARF's outstanding. I've built my share and recommend them. Others, however have their preferences. I don't think any of the recommended ARF's or kits out there will really be a problem.
Scale finishing is it's own world. I suggest a cub because I've seen them with REALLY well detailed BIG cockpits. Not just some plastic instrument panel... No... front seat, back seat, internal wiring, headsets, even the internal reinforcement. Other planes can be detailed, too - but I like the open space in the cub... it gives you more room to work. A plus when getting started.
08-11-2002 | 06:47 PM
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If you are wanting a military model consider the T-34 Mentor. It's trike gear low wing that flies well and ground handles like your trainer. World Models has a them ARF in 3 color schemes. There are two at our field and the owners are very pleased with them. P 39 would be a another choice though I am not familiar wit the kit personally. I wouldn't recommend the Cub for grouind handling reasons.
