im selling my mulitplex twinstar, and i got a reply, we talked but his 4th email
was suspisus

look:

Goodday Volkan Dil,
I saw your advert and i was really
interrested in the item.
Please i would like to know if the item
is still available and the condition of
this item.
I would be looking forward to your reply
via mail, expecting your reply soonset.
Alan.

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Tkanks for the recent mail pls i am an american citizen and i would also
like to know how much this item would be gong out for and pls do let me know
your mode of payment, i would be expecting a reply from you sonest.
Best Regards,
Alan.


>From: "Volkan Dil" <.....................>
>To: <......................>
>Subject: Re: Multiplex Twinstar, RTF deal
>Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:12:10 +0100 (GMT Standard Time)
>
>Hi,
>Yes it is still for sale, the plane was boxed-up in july when it was meant
>to be sold,
>but the buyer backed out at the last minute, the plane is in good
>condition,
>although it
>crashed, but that was repaired at the field (wings where just expoyied back
>together!
>the plane is wrapped in alot of bubble wrap, put in a big box!, and then
>filled to the top
>with shoulder pads!
>
>Where about do you live.
>
>Cheers
> ------------------------------
>Volkan Dil
>07710794952
>http://www.volkan-dil.co.uk
>
>
>
>------Original Message-------
>
>From: alan smiths
>Date: 09/03/04 13:04:54
>To: ..................................
>Subject: Multiplex Twinstar, RTF deal
>
>Goodday Volkan Dil,
> I saw your advert and i was really
>interrested in the item.
>Please i would like to know if the item
>is still available and the condition of
>this item.
>I would be looking forward to your reply
>via mail, expecting your reply soonset.
>Alan.

.................................................. .........................................

Thanks,
For your recent mail pls i would like to know how much this item would be
going out for and let me know your mode of payment.
I would prefer a CASHIER`S CHEQUE is this ok by you if it is them let me
know the following how the weight and the shipping cost.
Best Regards,
Alan


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Good day,
I am okay with the price anyway.
Sorry i was unable to get in contact with you all while.
Do you a have pic of the item ?
Meanwhile, My main importance of sending this mail is to crave your
sense of honesty and sincerety with respect to this transaction. As
soon as i saw you advertised for sale, i had to get across to one of
my business associates in the UK telling him i've got the product
i'm searching and that he has to make my funds available for the
payment with respect to funds owed on our past business transaction.
He assured me he would make the payments (certified bank check )
available for the payment. I would instruct him to get the check
across to you (ASAP). And as soon as you receive the payments i
would want you to get it deposited into your account immediately.
Within 2-5 working days the check will clear. As soon as the check
clears into your account ,you would need to get to deduct your
amount($) from the total(£5,000) and send the balance(difference)
to my shipper's beneficiary who would be i charge of the shipping
aspect of the transaction. My shipper's (Apex Logistics Inc.) would
be responsible for the pick up of the shipment at your location. So
you would need to get the balance across to them.That i shall
intruct you on how to send the balance, this has been my main aim
why i am asking for your sincerity and honestility to this
transaction.
Hoping to hear from you.
I would need to know the name,address and telephone to make the
check payable to in order to make the payments out as soon as
possible.
Regards,
Smiths.

well, what do you think?

without a doubt this is a scam,tell him where to go!

scam

It's a scam alright. Tell him that you, and everyone else in the world is on to that scam, and that he can go pound sand where the sun don't shine.

yes it is

i had about the same replies from that same person ( mr Smith) and the same method when I advertised my motorbike on the internet.
I would recieve a cheque and A shipper would come over to collect the bike, and i had to deduct my costs. Meanwhile i backed out because after a couple more emals he'll try to convince you to advance the amount of your own money, and then the shipper will pay you back that amount and you'll be rewarded a surplus fee for it. That's when i got suspicious because i refude to pay any money of my own to sell something.
Anyway, meanwhile i recieved a cheque, a forgery clearly, no sender, nothing, just a piece of cheap paper from the bank of scotland with the amount we agreed for..... etc.

I think they try it with every one, and sometimes it works, sometimes not, but it is a scam.
a few days back, i got another from a miss jesse smith, with just about the same way of asking to advance a cheque etc........

Don't fall for it.

karel
ypres, belgium, europe

SCAM SCAM SCAM !!!! If it looks to good to be true IT IS !!

Volkan,
If I were you I wouldn't touch it with a barge-pole.
1). To me it does not read the way I would expect an american citizen to write.
2). Sending five grand for a Twinstar, errr, I don't think so!
3). The one that really sets alarm bells ringing is him asking you to send someone money when YOU are the vendor.
You would be very brave/foolish to be tempted by this

Regards,

Andy E.

And since when does an American refer to himself as an 'American citizen'

I thought you all refered to yourselves as 'Americans' or 'I am / I'm an American'

lol--this scam is part of one of the greatest stories ever told. Seems that a guy trying to sell an Apple Powerbook on Ebay enede up with pretty much the same proposition, but managed to get back at the scammer.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...0&pagenumber=1

It's a huge thread - you can download the story in adobe .pdf format here:

http://www.p-p-p-powerbook.com/files/thepowerbook.pdf

I've seen this scam before. You deposit the check and send the balance to this other dude. Then guess what....the check bounces and you already sent your cash. You are left holding the bag. The other dude that has your clams name is U.Ben Had and he lives in Nigeria. Hope you didn't ship your plane already to the address in New York City that turned out to be a vacant lot in the Bronx and Mr. Smiths was waiting right there to pick it up. Now they got your money and your beloved plane.

And somebody will fall for it everyday.

dat is great!

SCAM......SCAM......SCAM. Why would anybody send more than purchase to a total stranger and trust that they would send the remainder, unless the check was no good.

SCAM!![>:]
If hes in the uk , it may be a long drive to the delivery point. Just tell him its shipped . Let him make a few trips for nothing. Then give him the BBB,s number to contact you,

You might consider letting the police know. I don't know about in the UK, but in the US, the FBI has a small team that works on tracking down and nailing people who run these scams.

When selling anything, never, ever send anyone your own money. Always wait for a check, even a cashiers check or money order, to clear.

That dude is trying to scam you!! Maybe the safest way is to use something like pay pal???? When your buyer pays them then you can send your stuff out.

tell him you are the fbi and have him deliver the check to headquarters. He won't bug you again

Yep thats right up there with the prince of Nigeria needing your checking account number so he can transfer his 70 million dollars into it so he can get to America so he can give you 10% of it for doing him such a big favor....and he picked you because SOMEHOW you are distantly related to him..... I STILL get this one once a week, ..The last time I emailed back that I'd be happy to oblige but that being an American (since we are all millionaires)I would require a large up front fee to open an account for him ,,(since it would be too suspicious for me to open an account with such a large sum) in order to begin the transaction,, I had him going for a couple of emails...Rog

I've got about a dozen emails like these in the last week! Most referring to one of my ads on RCU, but I've got a couple of those multimillion dollar inheretance offers too. Where do these idiots come up with these scams? And do they still really find takers?

As much as I like the open advertising, maybe there should be a way to filter who has access to contact info in the market area?

Message to scammers: we're on to you, stay off RCU!

Ben

Instead of telling him to pound sand (etc), you could (if you wanted) have some fun with them. This site: http://www.scamorama.com/ contains a load of hilarious stories in which people play with the scammers in some pretty neat ways.

The "Tale of two baits" is a classic, as is the lingerie one.

Gordon

thanks for the replys guys. Well i have not replied, as he is not troubling me...yet!,
once he does i will make up a crap excuse! ot just tell it to his face thar hes a scammer,
and to fu8k off. I will let you know.

the twinstar is still for sale...any1 want it? (i can ship to US)

oldest ebay scam in the book and its used alot on cycletrader also.

I hate these scammers, just got this in email

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Im shocked to hear on the news how many people fall for these scams,WHAT WERE THEY THINKING OR LACK OF?

Volkan - I hope this gets to you before it's too late!!! I am in the UK - I have recently tried selling a plane through the BMFA web-site and have had a very similar situation arise. Someone from overseas with a client owing them money in the UK - the client sends me a bankers cheque for way over the amount and then they want me to wire transfer (western union) the balance to an address in Nigeria.

I was suspicious so have sniffed round the web and found this>> http://www.fact-index.com/n/ni/niger...fer_fraud.html

There are dozens of refernces to the Nigerian(or various other countries in Far East etc) scam on the web.

DO NOT WIRE TRANSFER AND FUNDS FORM YOUR ACCOUNT - even if the apparently good bankers draft/cheque etc clears... it will eventually get rejected and the funds withdrawn from your account after you have wire transferred out.

SCAM ALL RIGHT -SIMPLY A MODIFIED WAY OF GETTING YOU TO SEND CASH WHILE BEING STUCK WITH A WORTHLESS CHECK.&JUST BECAUSE IT "CLEARS" DOES NOT MEAN ITS GOOD!!!! STEER CLEAR!!!!!!!!!