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Old 09-09-2004 | 09:39 PM
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I'm not a beginner and this isn't really a beginner question but you guys seem to be all over this stuff and it just feels right here. OK, so I've been flying almost 20 years and can fly pretty much anything but I'm starting to be more mellow. I have a semi 3D plane but all I do is cruise around and the rare loop or some other basic aerobatics. Mostly I just cruise around. I've decided on The World Models 46 Cub.

1. Do I want the clipped wing or regular wing? I think I want the clipped but is it still a slow mellow cruiser?
2. I've decided on a Saito 4C but what size do I want?
Old 09-09-2004 | 11:58 PM
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Well Mike if you're getting more mellow in your flying then I would go with the full winged version. You can clip the wing and make it a bit more aerobatic and still have it somewhat mellow but if you have a plane that you can allready get wild with then why clip the wing, just my view.
Old 09-10-2004 | 01:53 AM
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If you are going with the WM, I would go with the standard. My avatar is a WM .26 Cub with an O.S. 30 fourstroker and robart scale wheels. If I were you, and not on say a tight budget, I'd spring for a Saito twin. I am trying to get my hands on one now but it looks like it won't be until christmas before I get it. I will be getting the Saito 100 Twin from Horizon and putting it into my .40 Cub. It will be way too heavy by R/C cub standards but should still be much better than scale. Otherwise any 50+ for scale and 70+ for standard R/C performance. Mine flew quite scale on a 10 x 6 master airscrew. If I were to rebuild it, I would choose the 40 because with the cubs, a little power on tap for those rare occasions when you botch a turn is always nice.

There's nothing so beautiful as the yellow Cub flying in the sky. It is flight in a most pure form.
Old 09-10-2004 | 01:58 AM
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Forgot to mention, those engine sizes are for four stroke engines. I wouldn't put a 2-stroke engine in a Cub. I have friend who has a WM .40 with a 46ax in it and I can't say that I recommend that combination to anyone. Yes it flies well... but it does so like a scalded cat! For cruising, nothing beats the low down torque and thumping bass of a four stroke engine. Many would argue that gas engines sound better. Personally, I can't say I love the sharp barking sounds of gas engines. But to each his own.
Old 09-10-2004 | 03:24 PM
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I flew both the regular and clipped wing version of the great planes .40-size J-3 cub kit, and I now have the world models clipped wing cub. I prefer the clipped wing. Although I mostly just cruise around with my cub, the full length wing made me uncomfortable in rolling maneuvers. It just took sooooo looong for the plane to roll over and return to level flight. You really don't need the extra wing area for the plane to fly well or scale-like, and it unnecessarily adds difficulty to transporting it. Besides, the sunburst pattern on the clipped wing cub looks better than the all yellow. At least it's not as common. I say go with the clipped wing.

I flew the GP cub with an OS 70 surpass, which is way more power than needed. I'm flying my WM cub with an OS 52 and a 12x6 prop - also more than enough power.
Old 09-10-2004 | 05:41 PM
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Out here the wind would be the deciding factor. If the wind blows where you live get the clipped. The full wing can't be taxied cross wind. It will flip it every time.

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Old 09-13-2004 | 12:04 PM
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Thanks for the advice. I like both but I've decided to go with the clipped wing. I'd like to get the full wing version also... maybe 6 months or so down the road.
Old 09-13-2004 | 04:24 PM
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I had a full wing, 105" It flew great, even with full rates, the plane could manuver stunts as a .40 funtana was doing, and recovered from them when the funtana had a hard time. The full wing was great till i snapped the wing. The cub it back toghether, test flight friday night. Clipped winged it to 87 inch, used funtana ailerons on it though.
Old 09-13-2004 | 04:52 PM
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The full wing cub was designed back when the biggest engine they had was a squirrel in a cage.

The Clipped wing version is built they way it should be if you're using anything bigger than a .20 in a .40 size cub.

Too many people think that the clipped wing is for aerobatics. A clipped wing cub will still be one of the most graceful planes you will ever fly.

You simply don't need that big surfboard on top, all it does is contribute to adverse yaw, and prevent you from doing some nice aerobatics when you want them.
Old 09-13-2004 | 07:45 PM
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Dont forget that the lady thats part owner in sig, If i was told right, she flew that blue and white clipped wing cub. She flew it at airshows, till her husband was killed in his pitts. then she married the sig guy. The story goes somthing like that , but truly right on the big wing slowing aerobatics, but if you crank the rates up, she will perform, cant wait to try the clipped.
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for what ever reason, i cant attach the pic on the last post, try again. my comps been doing this all day.
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Old 09-15-2004 | 02:46 AM
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Minnflyer - Squirrel in a cage.... that is pretty funny, unless you saw my WM Piper Cub with a O.S. 30 fourstroke. Everytime I took off, my heart pounded with the thought of it not clearing the tall growth at the end of the runway. Personally, I think that is part of the beauty of the Cub. It's not acrobat. It's a scale joy. That's why I don't really recommend a larger than recommended engine for Cubs.

When I moved from Hong Kong back to Taiwan, I sold the Cub to a friend. The next weekend, my friends told me he had lost it into the sea. He claims that after he "tuned" the engine, he flew it in heavy winds and it just didn't have enough oomph to not be blown away. Although I had never had that problem, I knew the engine was a little on the scale side. I loved that plane!!!
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I recently bought gp piper cub and I think to install Saito fa65 or fa60 twin.Plane and engines are very nice ,I could not decide.

I need a advice
Old 09-15-2004 | 11:15 AM
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Hey MinnFlyer, tell me what you reall think. j/k

Although I can't give advice here I think I'm going with the 56 for mine. I do have a semi-3D plane but not a real 3D type engine and pretty used to low to mid power in my planes. My buddy's Giles can fly straight up at half throttle... that just ain't for me. I like to work for altitude.
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my clipped wing
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Old 09-15-2004 | 11:25 PM
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Dago Red, that looks HUGE! Is it third or quarter scale? I should put my newly completed, not yet maidened 40" EP Clipped Wing Cub next to yours. It's from World Models. I'll post a picture of it soon. Since I bought a Mini Cooper, can't bear to put a slimer in the back! My other planes are hangered until I find a solution!
Old 09-16-2004 | 06:38 AM
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Default RE: Regular or Clipped Wing Cub

MikeMc,

I wonder if you could buy the clipped wing version, then buy a replacement standard wing, and try both? After you determine what you prefer, you could possibly sell or trade the extra wing. Or keep it as a spare.
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Sig sells a kit for both planes, might want to check with them on a extra wing.
Old 09-16-2004 | 09:23 PM
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As promised, here is my brand spanking new WM clipped-wing Cub. It's balsa and light ply ARF. One piece wing and dual aileron servos. Done up stock.

Wing Span : 40"
Fuselage Length : 30"

Dimutive by balsa ARF standards.
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Old 09-16-2004 | 09:28 PM
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Damn, that's really nice. I haven't got mine yet. I need to wait until we sign for our home refi in a couple days.
Old 09-16-2004 | 10:04 PM
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Thanks Mike, its not expensive either. I bought one for 60USD in Hong Kong. Must have been the first ever to buy it. I had been eyeing the plane since it showed up suspended in the store as a prototype. It comes with a WM 8.4V Speed 400 with gearbox and the folding prop. I am running a 20a ESC with a 11.1V 3000mah Li-po. Balances it just right and should give it lots of oomph!

But my favorite favorite plane from WM is my Pooh Ultimate. I have since sold her when I moved. I heard the guy doesn't fly it but just displays it!

The first is my WM Cub 26 (Full wing) with O.S. FS30S fourstroke (power = one caged squirrel equivalent).
Second and third pictures are of my WM Ultimate 30 with O.S. 32sx and bisson pitts muffler and of course the hunniest of pilots!
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