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Old 10-17-2004 | 06:50 PM
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Here is a question to ponder. In this country we have been taught that you must learn to fly on a high wing trainer, both in r/c and full scale flying. As the fact that the Cessna 150/172 is one of the most popular planes in the U.S. to learn in.

I have actually been receiving flight instruction in a Piper Cherokee. This departs from the norm but if you look at England for example a lot of private flight instruction is done with low wing aircraft such as the Piper Cherokee or Arrow. I have a couple old timers in r/c that swear by the teaching of flight with a 4 channel, low wing airplane. I see some logic to this and have jumped from both sides of the fence.

I defenatly believe in 4 channel control as you learn from the beginning to control all functions of your plane. I also think there are a few lowing r/c planes that would make excellent trainers and give the student a potential step ahead in the plane inventory.

That is just my thoughts, the greatest thing in the forums here is that we all can voice our opinions and share.

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Old 10-17-2004 | 07:02 PM
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I just had my first flight last week on my four star 60, coming from an Avistar. I think someone could be taught on the low wing no problem but I would go with a trainer first.

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Old 10-17-2004 | 07:10 PM
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Nothing says you have to learn in/on/with a high wing aircraft, full size or model; it's just that the handling characteristics of a high wing are generally more forgiving than a low wing. If you look at the "balance" of a high wing with the fuselage weight "slung under" the center of lift, vs the low wing fuselage weight sitting above, it stands to reason there is a slightly greater pendulum effect on a high wing a/c that makes it tend to right itself. Most low wing planes I can think of compensate for this by having a greater dihedral angle (talking general purpose aircraft like your Cherokee) in the wing than high wing planes; maybe the net handling difference is negligible in a full size a/c but it is noticable in models.

When it comes down to it, you could probably learn to fly in an aerobat; the learning curve would be very steep with no margin for error. If you learn to fly a low wing, high wings should be POC. One other consideration may be pilot's visibility: in a high wing you have a less obstructed view of the ground.
Old 10-17-2004 | 07:15 PM
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This would all depend on the students natural abilities. Some are just naturals.

Personal I have trained students on both. The ones that went to low wing were the ones that were doing takeoffs and landing well on the second or third flight and I decided to buddy-box them on my own 4*

Most found out that they liked the low wing better, especially when the wind was blowing
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It is actually now uncommon for full scale pilots to be trained in low wing planes. I live in Fresno,CA. There are three flight schools opperating at the here. One of them is a Cessna school so they use a Cessna 172, but there is also a school that uses a Piper Cherokee 140, the other i'm not sure of. If you reseach some of the big flight schools in the U.S. such as Embry-Riddle and Pan Am International Flight Acadamey they also use low wing planes.
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I learned to fly rc with a LT40. Full scale in a Piper WarriorII @ Purdue University. I can remember that the Warrior had quit a bit of ground effect sometimes and really wanted to float down the runway. I would think that some of this could carry over to the rc world on low wing aircraft. The main reason for high wing trainers, I think, is mentioned above. The are just more predictable for a newbie to learn on. But to each his own....

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