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Old 10-30-2004 | 04:10 PM
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Hi
You wont beleve it but im almost finished my new Vmar, (it took me only 3hours!!!)
Im just waiting for bits + bobs and my brand new Jen 56!

Question:
Look at the first picture.
Do i need that padding between the wings? Instructions dont say anything.
I will have a Jen 56 in this, now i have Futaba S148's in rudder throttle ele. and
S3003's in wings. Should i change my ele servos on S3004 or S3001?
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Old 10-31-2004 | 08:06 AM
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when i put that padding on, there is a small gap between the wing and the fuse.
Old 10-31-2004 | 04:15 PM
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I would probably say No to the padding, its probably just thier to proctect the plane in transport............ if the instructions dont say anything dont use it............


I fly alot of 3D planes with plug in wings and NONE of them have any kind of padding inbetween..... its not a great idea to have a gap inbetween the wings if u dont want them falling off in flight...........


As to the servo's the ones u have seem fine
Old 10-31-2004 | 04:52 PM
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i dont have an answer to your question... but I just had to say thats an awesome looking plane... how does it fly?
Old 10-31-2004 | 05:51 PM
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i dunno yet, i will order the engine tomorrow (monday), buy the servos on friday, and hopefully fly it on saturday!!!
Old 10-31-2004 | 06:10 PM
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There seems to be something wrong with a post about an Extra in the Beginners Forum. I'll go out on a limb here and say an Extra isn't even a good second plane. I watched a beginner who was warned stuff his Extra from to much elevator throw, he never new what the problem was and started screaming radio hit, rather funny.
Old 10-31-2004 | 06:20 PM
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lol, this is not my second plane, its my...um...5th plane, and ive flown all sorts of aircraft
(some of my mates planes) so i know what im expecting...

its posted here, because i need some help, cos im a begginer to plug in wings
Old 10-31-2004 | 11:34 PM
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Volkan: Hope the fingers are all healed up good!

Hope you have better luck with your VMAR than I did. I found my VStick to be built substandard and the covering difficult to deal with. Flies real good though, but I bought a VMAX engine and the throttle body froze up while I was breaking it in. Sent it back and it's been gone over a month now. It's on it's way home now but noone has contacted me to let me know what they did, only a standard UPS Notification message of "something" being shipped from them.

I'm not pleased with VMAR or their service after the sale. The staff is not friendly nor helpful. I will not be repeating business with them.

Let us know how the extra flies!
Old 11-01-2004 | 01:56 AM
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Just remember to land fast......... it will not glide in..... and they will not want to slow down and if its too slow it will drop a wing in a second and plant itself.................

Sometimes i forget with mine until the last second and think Oh S**T........ its still alive thou
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I was told that about me super air...
but i manged to land it slow. I think i maybe able to
land it slow, i will do a couple of low passes and see.

twistr what do you expect!! Vmar do cheap kits that
fly and look good. I dont know anything about there engines, i will get a
Jen 56 for mine (jen 56 = a engine made by Just engines in the uk
with a crankcase of a .40 size, but the power of a .60. Its one of the best engines
ive seen)
The quality of the kit/balsa looks ok, but i said that with my blackhorse super air
(who also make cheap kits), then with i crashed the wings i found that the main
ply joiner was only jammed between the upper and the lower spar... so that shows you.

as for my extra
i will get:

Throttle = FP148
Ele = S3004
Rudder = S3004
Wings = 2xS3003.

Ill get a video of the madien...if the weather permits, this weekend.
Old 11-01-2004 | 01:26 PM
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Good luck with it but ive flown both and the extra is nothing like the super air

Test the stall way up high
Old 11-01-2004 | 09:05 PM
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The person with the throttle body problem. Are you sure the idle stop screw didnt come loose? that can jam a throttle
Old 11-01-2004 | 09:08 PM
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I tore the entire carb apart trying to unstick it, wasn't happening... Should get it back tomorrow so we'll see if they fixed it...
Old 11-02-2004 | 01:32 AM
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geez, you never realise how many arseholes there really are on the internet until now

mike
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Volkan,
Had my Vmar 330L about 3 weeks now. Powerwed with OS46FX and JR radio Flys Great. The covering is a bit poor needed reshrinking after the first day in the sun. I fitted the wing pads and looks like they are there to take up any difference in wing to fuse fitment. You can land as any other aircraft like any other, just keep the speed up at first untill you get used too it or it will tip stall.The pink sky pattern under the wings and tail is very easy to see in the sky. Good luck.

Cheers.
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Well, I got my engine back from Richmond today. They replaced it under warranty. If it breaks in and runs good, I'll be satisfied. Will keep you posted...
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Volkan,
Had my Vmar 330L about 3 weeks now. Powerwed with OS46FX and JR radio Flys Great. The covering is a bit poor needed reshrinking after the first day in the sun. I fitted the wing pads and looks like they are there to take up any difference in wing to fuse fitment. You can land as any other aircraft like any other, just keep the speed up at first untill you get used too it or it will tip stall.The pink sky pattern under the wings and tail is very easy to see in the sky. Good luck.

Cheers.
Hi,
I have decided not to use the wings pads!, as for the covering that is no problem for me...i live in London!!.
As for the pink, i will be gaffing it up with a dub saying volkan!!! I will send pics after its done!


twistr - > we are waiting...
Old 11-07-2004 | 11:00 AM
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hi
question:

what prop do you reccommd for the Jen 56.
Im thinking a 11x6 or 11x8, for prophanging let me know.


The Ghost : did you have trouble with your wings? i have a stange gap in mine!!
twistr: any news?
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Volkan,
For vertical you want a bigger prop with less pitch, think of it in terms of a heli blade. Something like a 12x6 or 13x5 which won't have the top end speed but will give you more thrust. I prefer to prop aerobatic planes for less speed and more vertical performance so I get consistant uplines and shorter take off runs. They also are less twichy at slower speeds and you can do more with them. It's like running in first or second gear instead of third or fourth. Experiment on what works best for you.
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hows about a 12.25x3.75? worked wonders for my irvine 53/funfly combo.
Old 11-07-2004 | 11:50 PM
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Volkan,
The left wing panel was not a flush fit with the fuse 1 deg out, but can be taken up with foam. Had to reset Incidence of right wing out by 3deg.

Cheers,
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Ghost,
Can't i just trim the alu joiners?
On my extra there is a gap on both wings!
so, im thinking of trimming them abit and experimenting
with them, i dont quite understand what you have done,

the vmar fuse was built on a worktop, under a dryer machine, it has already needs re-shrinking
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volkan,
Measure the depth of the holes in the wing panels for the alu joiners before you cut them. Remember the longer joiner goes to the rear. the 1deg out was at the front of the wing. I have heard that they may have been built by deaf and blind builders as the quality varies greatly from model to model. As with the covering that is another story. I am thinking of recovering mine from scratch as it has started lifting again.

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Hi, ok i will see which prop they have, i will go for a 12x6 or something similar.

Ghost: on a second look, its only the left wing i have attached pics
is this what happened to you???? i need to fix this by saturday, so all you
did was put more foam inbetween the wings and fuse?

Let me know.
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Old 11-10-2004 | 05:21 PM
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some general pics:
i will have videos if i fly it on saturday!, but i wont put my hand near that prop!!!!!
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