TT Decathlon as a "Second Plane"?
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Hey guys, looking for a little advice.
I learned to fly about 10 years ago on an Eagle 2. I got pretty good with it, eventually ripped the wings off doing aerobatics.
I took a 10 year hiatus, and just got back in.
I bought a H9 80" Cub and a Saito 56 to relearn. I just didn't want to do the trainer thing again. I really like scale planes, I just can't get excited about blocky looking planes. I had no problem at all with the Cub, and got my wings after about 5 flights. I've got about 20 on it now, and starting to move into aerobatics. I can to loops, rolls, hammerheads and tailslides. I want to move up to a more aerobatic plane, and I'd eventually like to get into a warbird.
I had a TT 46 Pro I bought long ago but never ran. Went to the LHS and saw a VMAR Harvard II (PC-9) 56" span. I thought it was a really neat model and bought it. Put it together, and took it up.
Had an experienced guy take off and land it for the first flight, but I did fly it and had no trouble at all. The second flight I took it up myself, flying around, no problem controlling it. I was starting to think about landing, was trying to come in low over the run way and go around another time. I was banking about 45 degrees, and the plane was falling, so I pulled up a little. I realized too late that it was banking at 45 degrees *inverted*. Down was up, and that's all she wrote.
I think I was able to control the plane, but it was a visibility problem. The plane was all flat dark blue. It was a little faster than I was ready for, but I think I could handle it.
I need another plane to put this motor in and move on.
I know I should probably go with a H9 US 40. But I just can't get excited about it. I know it's probably the perfect plane, more wing area, slower flight, I can learn flaps, low wing, etc....
But I REALLY like the idea of the TT Decathlon. It's got much more wing than that VMAR. It's bright, and still a high wing. I think I'd enjoy it more.... but I don't know if it's the right plane.
What do you think?
I learned to fly about 10 years ago on an Eagle 2. I got pretty good with it, eventually ripped the wings off doing aerobatics.
I took a 10 year hiatus, and just got back in.
I bought a H9 80" Cub and a Saito 56 to relearn. I just didn't want to do the trainer thing again. I really like scale planes, I just can't get excited about blocky looking planes. I had no problem at all with the Cub, and got my wings after about 5 flights. I've got about 20 on it now, and starting to move into aerobatics. I can to loops, rolls, hammerheads and tailslides. I want to move up to a more aerobatic plane, and I'd eventually like to get into a warbird.
I had a TT 46 Pro I bought long ago but never ran. Went to the LHS and saw a VMAR Harvard II (PC-9) 56" span. I thought it was a really neat model and bought it. Put it together, and took it up.
Had an experienced guy take off and land it for the first flight, but I did fly it and had no trouble at all. The second flight I took it up myself, flying around, no problem controlling it. I was starting to think about landing, was trying to come in low over the run way and go around another time. I was banking about 45 degrees, and the plane was falling, so I pulled up a little. I realized too late that it was banking at 45 degrees *inverted*. Down was up, and that's all she wrote.
I think I was able to control the plane, but it was a visibility problem. The plane was all flat dark blue. It was a little faster than I was ready for, but I think I could handle it.
I need another plane to put this motor in and move on.
I know I should probably go with a H9 US 40. But I just can't get excited about it. I know it's probably the perfect plane, more wing area, slower flight, I can learn flaps, low wing, etc....
But I REALLY like the idea of the TT Decathlon. It's got much more wing than that VMAR. It's bright, and still a high wing. I think I'd enjoy it more.... but I don't know if it's the right plane.
What do you think?
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With the way you have described your skills I woulld say have at it.
Flying a CUB is great for scale but rudder coordination is an absolute must with it which I am sure you already know. The Decathalon with be similair so you should have no problem.
Do you hate disorientation, sorry to hear about the "OOPPSS" with the VMAR.
With the way you have described your skills I woulld say have at it.
Flying a CUB is great for scale but rudder coordination is an absolute must with it which I am sure you already know. The Decathalon with be similair so you should have no problem.
Do you hate disorientation, sorry to hear about the "OOPPSS" with the VMAR.
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Yeah, I know about the need for coordination, and I'm working on it.... but it's not really instinctual yet. I haven't had a problem with it, however. The Cub is neat in that it's large enough and slow enough, you can SEE the opposite yaw when you don't do a coordinated turn.
Yeah, the disorientation sucks. The Cub is all yellow, but it's so big and slow I haven't had a problelm. I think with a Decathlon, the top of the wing is all red with the white startburst, and all white on the bottom, I shouldn't have a problem.
Whever I get to that Spitfire, I'm definitely putting invasion stripes on it!
How do the Decathlons really fly? When trying to figure out how slow it can land, I can't figure out how a symetrical airfoil affects it compared to a flat bottom, and factoring in wing loadings...
Some people have said they're really difficult because of the short coupling, but they say the same thing about the Cub, and I didn't have a problem. I've done a few ground loops, but no big deal.
Yeah, the disorientation sucks. The Cub is all yellow, but it's so big and slow I haven't had a problelm. I think with a Decathlon, the top of the wing is all red with the white startburst, and all white on the bottom, I shouldn't have a problem.
Whever I get to that Spitfire, I'm definitely putting invasion stripes on it!

How do the Decathlons really fly? When trying to figure out how slow it can land, I can't figure out how a symetrical airfoil affects it compared to a flat bottom, and factoring in wing loadings...
Some people have said they're really difficult because of the short coupling, but they say the same thing about the Cub, and I didn't have a problem. I've done a few ground loops, but no big deal.
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Yeah, I know about the need for coordination, and I'm working on it.... but it's not really instinctual yet. I haven't had a problem with it, however. The Cub is neat in that it's large enough and slow enough, you can SEE the opposite yaw when you don't do a coordinated turn.
Yeah, the disorientation sucks. The Cub is all yellow, but it's so big and slow I haven't had a problelm. I think with a Decathlon, the top of the wing is all red with the white startburst, and all white on the bottom, I shouldn't have a problem.
Whever I get to that Spitfire, I'm definitely putting invasion stripes on it!
How do the Decathlons really fly? When trying to figure out how slow it can land, I can't figure out how a symetrical airfoil affects it compared to a flat bottom, and factoring in wing loadings...
Some people have said they're really difficult because of the short coupling, but they say the same thing about the Cub, and I didn't have a problem. I've done a few ground loops, but no big deal.
Yeah, I know about the need for coordination, and I'm working on it.... but it's not really instinctual yet. I haven't had a problem with it, however. The Cub is neat in that it's large enough and slow enough, you can SEE the opposite yaw when you don't do a coordinated turn.
Yeah, the disorientation sucks. The Cub is all yellow, but it's so big and slow I haven't had a problelm. I think with a Decathlon, the top of the wing is all red with the white startburst, and all white on the bottom, I shouldn't have a problem.
Whever I get to that Spitfire, I'm definitely putting invasion stripes on it!

How do the Decathlons really fly? When trying to figure out how slow it can land, I can't figure out how a symetrical airfoil affects it compared to a flat bottom, and factoring in wing loadings...
Some people have said they're really difficult because of the short coupling, but they say the same thing about the Cub, and I didn't have a problem. I've done a few ground loops, but no big deal.
If you have a tailer than normal tailwheel mount, try using a shorter one or even a smaller tire. Cub wheels are usually quite larger to start with so going even bigger probably will not help much.
I have never owned a Decathalon but have flown maiden flights on 2 of them and I felt they were just like flying my H9 80" Cub. Just more aerobatic. Keep the throttle a couple of clicks above idle until you are just a few inches off the ground and then go to idle and flair ever so slightly and it should set right into a nice 3 point landing. That's how I did it and both times it just looked so pretty setting down. (2 maidens but about 4 takeoffs and landings each with normal basic aerobatics (rolls, loops, stall turns, etc... for the heck of it )
Maybe someone with more time on the Decathalon can chime and and give you more details on the flying traits.



