From Hitec Eclipse 7 to a Futaba 7CA
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i fly all my gas planes on the eclipse because i like it better than the futaba. the futaba i use on my electrics and one trainer that i let my friends fly buddy boxed. i like the look and feel of the eclipse much better and don't care too much for all the extra features touted by futaba and jr these days. and of course the spectra module makes life so much easier.
that cub is a World Models Cub 26. one of the smaller ARF cubs out there. i could fit that in my Supra without taking it apart and flew it for almost 2 years before i sold it when i moved. i loved that cub and will buy another once i get my vintage kraft single stick radio working. it had an o.s.30 fourstroke that purred. loved the scale flying with that plane. people with thier overpowered ARFs that tend to break apart in the sky thought i was crazy for flying such a modestly powered plane. i loved it. this is the last picture i have. soon after this picture the guy who bought it from me sank it to the bottom of the hong kong harbour. he claimed that the engine was just not powerful enough to bring the plane back on a windy day. *sigh* never should have sold it to someone that didn't really know how to fly.
that cub is a World Models Cub 26. one of the smaller ARF cubs out there. i could fit that in my Supra without taking it apart and flew it for almost 2 years before i sold it when i moved. i loved that cub and will buy another once i get my vintage kraft single stick radio working. it had an o.s.30 fourstroke that purred. loved the scale flying with that plane. people with thier overpowered ARFs that tend to break apart in the sky thought i was crazy for flying such a modestly powered plane. i loved it. this is the last picture i have. soon after this picture the guy who bought it from me sank it to the bottom of the hong kong harbour. he claimed that the engine was just not powerful enough to bring the plane back on a windy day. *sigh* never should have sold it to someone that didn't really know how to fly.
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Nice looking cub, thanks for sharing. I still haven't figured out what I should do. I emailed Futaba customer support and they stated the 7CA would supoort a single servo flaps setup with a 3 position switch. I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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If you go to the manual I referenced in post #2 of this thread and then go to pages 34-36, you will get an idea of what would be req'd to set up the flap scenario you desire. After that it is your choice. [sm=bananahead.gif]
If you go to the manual I referenced in post #2 of this thread and then go to pages 34-36, you will get an idea of what would be req'd to set up the flap scenario you desire. After that it is your choice. [sm=bananahead.gif]
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Bruce, thanks. I just read the mentioned pages and it still isn't clear to me. I think they give instruction on flaperons coupled with the elevator, not solely flaps. On my Eclipse, with ailerons using a 'y' harness on channel 1 and the single servos flaps on channel 6 they both move together when activated by the switch. What I want is to control the flaps separate from the ailerons with a 3 position switch.
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Do you have SEPARATE flaps or are you wanting to use the ailerons as flaperons?
Do you fly mode 1 or 2? I'm expecting mode 2.
Ask Futaba if their T7CAP TX in mode 2 has a 3 position switch and if so which one is it?
If it does not, can/will they modify one for this? I read in manual that "Switch G" (top left) in the mode 1 version is 3 position and also in Helo version.
Let me know their answer. Also go back to post #2 and read manual addendum for additional info. Remember these are examples, you would need to substitute YOUR needs into examples
Do you fly mode 1 or 2? I'm expecting mode 2.
Ask Futaba if their T7CAP TX in mode 2 has a 3 position switch and if so which one is it?
If it does not, can/will they modify one for this? I read in manual that "Switch G" (top left) in the mode 1 version is 3 position and also in Helo version.
Let me know their answer. Also go back to post #2 and read manual addendum for additional info. Remember these are examples, you would need to substitute YOUR needs into examples
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Okay, I fly mode 2. I'll ask futaba and let you know, thanks. I read the addendum and from what I understand the knob with control them along with an assigned switch, but it's not clear if it's a 3 position switch.
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Without a tx in front of me it is hard to tell.
pages 23 & 24 seem to be implying you can move the function from the knob to sw G or E. Page 36 seem to give another EXAMPLE of setting percentages. Again, you would need to substitute FLAPS into the issue. Would be nice if someone that had one of these would chime in about now!!
pages 23 & 24 seem to be implying you can move the function from the knob to sw G or E. Page 36 seem to give another EXAMPLE of setting percentages. Again, you would need to substitute FLAPS into the issue. Would be nice if someone that had one of these would chime in about now!!
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hello I have just recently got the 7c radio and hadn't had the chance to go ont and fly with it yet. I set up a quad flap airplane on it even though it is slightly limited. I can play around with my radio a bit and see if I can come up with a way to do what you describe. it might be a little more difficuly if your using two seperate channels for the flaps , but I'm not sure till I mess with it if this can be done or not. and if It can and your using two seperate channels that might burn up all three of your P mixes. tell me how you have your flaps setup using one or two channels and I will see if I can come up with something for you.
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oh and I forgot to menchen that I was reading some of these post and like the eclipse 7 this radio is not capable of dual elevater servos unles you use a mixer or a y harness becase the trim lever would not move both servos. Just something to be aware of or it could crash your plane.
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I'm not using two separate channels for flaps. Ailerons are linked together with a 'Y' harness and connected into channel one. The flaps share a servo and are connected into channel 6.
The plane is a P51. I want ailerons to work as normal ailerons and flaps to work as normal flaps. Nothing linked as flaperons. Using a 3 position switch, position 1 would work as neutral or 0 flaps, position 2 only a small amount or percentage of down flaps and the 3rd position just a bit more down deflection of the flaps.
The plane is a P51. I want ailerons to work as normal ailerons and flaps to work as normal flaps. Nothing linked as flaperons. Using a 3 position switch, position 1 would work as neutral or 0 flaps, position 2 only a small amount or percentage of down flaps and the 3rd position just a bit more down deflection of the flaps.
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ok I understand how you have it set up . I am going to the store right now but when I get back I will get my radio out and see if I can set this up on the three position switch for you and let you know what i get. and by the way the $149.99 price is for the tx alone. the full system sells for $249.99
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ok here is the story. I seen in a post that someone had mentioned page 34 -36 in the manual I looked and this tell you about the triple rates and expo to go along with it setup on the three way switch. your Ailerons will not need Flaperons nor will they be affected because they are both operation on channel 1. Now you can go in the Parameters setting and make channel 5 operate by the three way switch , but this will not operate properly because the middle position gives you nuteral flaps, the up positon gives you spoilers and the down gives you flaps. you can adjust the up and down rate but you can't reversoe it. So what you need to do is set up two p mixes. you have to go to the Perameters settings and null out channel five so no control or switch operates the channel. then what you have to do is setup the plane with the flaps neutral with the three position Up or down depending on your pereferance. what I did was made a programable mix and set it to turn on with the switch in the middle position and set the rate for the flaps to be half ( adjust rates to how much flap deployment you want ). Then I used a second programable mix to turn on in the up position on the three way switch and set the rates to full ( again set the deployment as needed) So your answer Yes It is easy to do with the single servo setup. now if you had the flaps on two channels you would run out of P mixes before you could have both flaps work in both the deployed switch postions as you only have three mixes and would need four. The radio is nice because you can asign any switch to do whatever you want. but I find one thing that I don't care fur. You cannont reasign the airbrake function which is default to the 3 position switch in the up position. I don't need airbrakes most of the time I guess I can sacrifice the airbrake for triple rates. I hope this helps.
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Absolutely it helps. Thanks, but I do have a question. You said that I can go in the Parameters setting and make channel 5 operate by the three way switch. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't channel 5 be set to the retracts. Is channel 6 selectable or able to be assigned the 3 position switch. Also, I would have to use a 'y' harness with the ailerons on channel 1?
Just to review. The bottom position will be neutral flaps, the center a small percentage and the top position full flaps?
Just to review. The bottom position will be neutral flaps, the center a small percentage and the top position full flaps?
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channel 5 is usually used for the retracts. No you don't need the y harness you could use flaperon for the ailerons. you if you have the flaperon function on you may use channel 1 and channel 6 for your two ailerons. Or in your flaperon function you can also chose to use channel 5 or 7 as your second flaperon channel, but they will not act together as flaps Except for airbrake function. In parameter you can choose what switch or dial you want to use for channel 5 and 7 but not 6. so I don't see whay you couldn't set channel 5 to a two position switch and us that for your retracts and use channel 7 for flaps. Like I said channels 5 and 7 can be use on the three position switch. but it gives you center as neutral up as spoilers and down as flaps. you can adjust how far up and down it is deflected but won't work the way you want. There is no center position adjustment and you get one position upward flap and one downward without the + - rates. If you have both your flaps on one servo like you said, then you can do it by using two p mixes. And what I said was an example if you prefer you can program the radio to be up as neutral and center part way and down as full. you can select either direction as on or off on the selectable switches. If you had it set up with two channels for flaps you couldn't do this with the 7c because you would burn up 4 p mixes when you have 3. And if you have any other questions let me know.
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this might sound stupid, but couldn't you just physically adjust the linkage so that at the up (spoileron) position, the flaps are neutral? the neutral position the flaps are lowered partially and at down position the flaps are fully deployed?
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From: IE, IRELAND
sorry if this is off topic but can i assign the flaps, airbrakes to different switches on my Futaba 7C. they are currently on the only 3 position switch that i was using for triple rates,how do I move the brakes to a diff switch so I can move back to triple rates...
Thanks,
Hakko
P.S. I love the 7C, it is my second radio. I previously had a skysport, the most basic in basic radios!!
Thanks,
Hakko
P.S. I love the 7C, it is my second radio. I previously had a skysport, the most basic in basic radios!!



