by the way, anyone wanna buy an engine? i need cash for a plane.

not goin with the superstar EP?

for $109 you can get 3 of the GWS stick planes..go to the parkflyer forum and ask advice there, you are already being steered towards glow here....with no help available you need cheap ,lighweight, foam, floater ,planes....Rog
ps what engine are you selling?

im selling a thunder tiger GP .42 for 45.00. its only been ran about 5 times.

i found a cheap arf and its only about 150 with everything i need with 2 day shipping.it doesn't even need glue!! its a global RCM trainer 40. i have the engine, radio, and three servos. need one more and im ready to go. is this a good plane to start with?

[link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJKE1&P=7]sig EP 42[/link]

Try this one out. It's a little higher (149), but well worth it. It's not one of those slow, small, hard to handle foamies, it's a full sized electric park trainer, and SIG makes some GREAT stuff! I don't think you'll go wrong with it, and it comes with motor and ESC. You only need TX, RX, and some micro servos. (and a battery, of course). You'll find that it's hard to start out with less than 250 dollars when it all comes down to it. You need to save some more. You could buy a 99 dollar plane, but it might last one flight, and be too hard to actually keep flying. JMO! Get a balsa plane (electric or glow) and get someone to teach you how to fly it, and your money will be better spent.

Losi24,

The RCM trainer is fine.. However I think given the fact that you don't seem to have a proper field or help that your investment is going to wind up as a pile of sticks in a matter of seconds!!!!!!!!

Take a step back and reconsider the GWS Slow Stick its your best bet for success given the Info you have provided IMNHO
PS Don't take any .40 sized Nitro plane to the local baseball field untill you have become a profcient pilot even then its not the best idea!!!!

The slow stick will allow you to use your radio and std servos. You will need an ESC (electronic speed controller) 1 or more battery packs and a field charger that can recharge them.

its cheaper to build it yourself... if your on that tight of a budget then buy a sig lt 25 and a cheap .25 engine buy some cheap old servoes and tx from some 1 here or at ur club for next to nothing (usualy ul buy the old servoes from one of their first planes since most people move on to digital and highspeed servoes and dont need the little ones ne more so u could get em used pretty cheap) you may even be able to borrow a tx from some 1 if you find some thats really trusting....

No it is not. It is however for some more fun

i've tried to build my self already. DISASTER!![X(] i found a place to fly. my dads uncle owns 13 acres an it has about 6 or 7 acres of flat land. is that enough? i decided i want a nitro any way. i asked a couple of friends that fly and they all learned on nitro. they said it was easier to learn on them cause of their big wingspan. plus if i buy a plane with ailerons now i wont have to make them and put them on later.

Did you ask your friends if they learned by themselves? If so how many crashes did they have before becoming proficient enough to leave the field with the model in the same condition that it arrived in.

You make several statements that need to be addressed before you pick a plane. The most critical to your success is are you going to attempt this without experienced help. If you are I would stay away from standard nitro trainers for several reason the two most important are.

1. Speed

The average .40 sized nitro sized trainer will fly 30-50mph with no problems (That means that 13 acres is going to seem pretty small to you at first) The speed coupled with your inexperience means that you are going to have little or no time to react before your plane gets far enough away that you won't be able to clearly see what it is doing as a result of your actions (i.e. is it banking left or right is it flying inverted or up right.)

2. Properly breaking in/tuning your engine and trimming your plane.

A lot of beginners get on these forums and assume that they are going to take their new ARF/RTF pride and joy out of the box start it up and have it operate and fly 100% correctly right out of the box. Unfortunatly this is usually no the cause. Running an engine to lean can damage it Running ABC/ABN type engines to rich can cause premature engine wear. Flying a plane with an engine that doesn't idle or transition properly can cause the engine to "flame out" forcing a dead strick landing at best and a crash at worse. Flying a plane that is badly out of trim and or balance can be difficult for those of us with experience for a beginner it usually spells disaster

Please under stand that I'm not trying to discourage you only attempting to point out that if you are on a tight budget you should make decisions and pick equipment that will minimize damages to your model causing you to either quit the hobby or spend more money then neccessary.

Having flown both Nitro and Electric. I would strongly suggest going the electric park flyer route if you are planning on learning unassisted.

i know how to tune the engine already. i just need to know about how much room do i need to fly? would a big school playground be enough? i don't know how to find out if there is a flying field near me. id also like to know if there is a club near me. i did ask them if they learned by themselves. one of them did. he said that he just drove it around on the ground for a tank or two and got used to each of the controls. them he took off about 10 feet off the ground and practiced landing. them took his first flight and did pretty good accept for the landing. he luckily only broke a prop. after that he can fly pretty good.

One more time IF you are going to be learning on your own. A playground big or otherwise is NOT the place to fly a .40 sized Nitro plane. For other types of models a big playground can be enough room.

If you want to find a club near you start a thread asking for info on clubs near your location here on RCU also you can call the AMA and ask them for a list of clubs in your area.

Losi24, Why don't you try an experiment. You will need a Bike a friend and a stop watch or watch with a second hand. Heres what you want to do Ride your bike as fast as you can from one end of the field to the other while your friend times you. Figure that at best your top speed on level ground is 20mph most likely more like 10-15mph Look at how many seconds it took you to traverse the space keeping in mind that the plane will be going 3-5 times faster. I think you will find that the average nitro trainer will be outside of the open area in much less the 30 seconds. This doesn't neccessarly present a problem if you can control it. If you can't your plane may end up on someones roof or backyard making you unpopular at the very least.

This can be a very frustrating hobby but it doesn't have to be.

You have been talking to a couple of people who fly, ask them if they know of any clubs close by. Do either of them have enough skill to teach you and would they be willing? A big playground COULD be big enough, it would depend on how big BIG is. My high school had a playground that was over 1/2 mile square, but we had 4000 students there, I'm betting yours is smaller.

yes mine is smaller. only like 800 students. nwell thanks for all the tips guys! you probaly just saved me ALOT of money!otherwise i would have crashed on the first 10 second flight. id appreciate it if you'd keep helping me out. it really helps!

The AMA web site has a searchable database of chartered clubs
http://ama-dist-8.org/Clubs