Right now I am on a cosmic flyer to train me for flight. I already have a tower trainer ready to go. Will it be hard for me to fly the trainer with out an instructer, if I have mastered the cosmic.

sorry this might not be the answere your looking for but im right along with you, i need to find some one to teach me how to fly my jet with a turbine engine, but what i wanted to ask you is what is a cosmic flyer? is it like a flight simulator?

Yes it will be hard and yes (before you ask) you WILL crash it... Get the instructor!

Agreed...I've got a friend that tried to fly by himself. He crashed it in under a minute. Safe yourself the pain, and safe yourself some money and get an instuctor!...Its well worth it.

Have fun with it

-Dustin

I would think if you are gettin up to turbine, then you shouldn't have anyone flying before you do........you should be experienced when you get up to turbine. I'm ready to get up to that, and I know nobody at my field will even want to have the TX in their hand!! What plane do you have with that turbine and what turbine is it? I'm going for a Yellow Stingray

~Michael~

my understanding is that you have to have a waiver to fly a turbine--which requires training from a qualified person. I know you could fly it without the waiver--it's not a law, just wouldn't be covered by AMA--at least that is my understanding...

I just have to say, nobody would want to fly a turbine when I get mine. They would expect me to fly it since I'm gettin a turbine and would think I'm experienced enough to fly it since I'm crazy enugh to get a turbine.

GET AN INSTRUCTOR!!

~Michael~

The Cosmic flyer probably flys maybe 10 miles/hour and weighs 21 oz. A tower trainer proably flys around 70 miles/hour and weighs 5.75 lbs. If that doesn't make you nervous reading this, it should!! Find out from you nearest hobby shop where the near by RC clubs are and go visit them. It will be more fun and save you a lot of frustration. I found a pic of the Cosmic flyer in case any one else was wondering what the plane looks like.[8D]

I bought a little Hobbyzone Fighterbird, much like that critter, just to play around with on my lunch breaks at work. I will say that, for me, that little snot is MUCH harder to fly in any wind at all than any glow plane I have ever owned! Horizontal movement is mostly controlled by body english and lip biting. Altitude is controlled by throttle. Full throttle almost makes it climb, less throttle makes it hit trees and utility poles. I caught a riser one day, and by the time I realized there was no "down" available it was a tiny speck. A co-worker came out to see why I was standing and looking up.

"Whatcha doon?"

"Flying?"

"Where is it?"

"Waaaaaay up there."

"I don't see it. Out of range?"

"No, I just can't get back upwind, and when I give it throttle it climbs."

"So you're screwed?"

"Yep."

Took me a long time to circle it down, and I did get it at least in the general parking area. It flies about as well as the rudder-only models did in the 60's, but with less rudder authority. Any wind over about 2 mph overpowers it.

But it's better than nuttin.

Very true... I myslef had a fighterbird not too long ago, on the first flight it crashed... let is sit about a year, finally pulled it out again and attempted to repair it. All the thing does now is sink to the ground. I took all the electronics out of it and am going to create some odd ground mobile with it

I am good at flying the cosmic and Im about 7 hours away from any hobby shop what do i do I have pleanty of space to fly it.

Best bet would be to drive 7 hours with the plane, get an instructor to teach you in one or two days, use the knowledge to fly yourself when you get home.

If your 7 hours away from an instructor or hobby shop, try a simulator. I learned to fly helis on REFLEX. Is kinda expensive but it save me hundreds of dollars, also it will give you the hand eye coordination you need.

Alan

so if I got a simulator it would be easy and natural to fly the trainer in real life.

Look for the closest flying field. With at least two days of training you can then take it from there on your own. NOT advisable, but possible.

No, the simulator is not going to make it "easy and natural" to fly the real thing. I've posted this thought in other threads, but I'll repeat it here. As an instructor I see a lot of people show up at the field that have become "aces" on their simulators at home. In all honesty, I wish that people would wait to start on the simulator until they have at least talked to an instructor. The simulators are great for reenforcement training, meaning they help you practice and reinforce what you already know. If you are trained properly the simulator is going to make you better at what you have learned. And if you haven't been properly trained then they simulator is just going to make you better at being bad. The students that I have taught that spent a lot of time on a simulator before they show up at the field have all had to be "un-taught" before I could start training them, which in some cases DOUBLED the amount of time it took them to solo that it would have taken otherwise.

If you plan on using a simulator and then try to fly a plane without help of an instructor, I will almost assure that you will end up crashing your plane. There are a lot of things that the simulator isn't going to help you with at all. That's where an instructor comes in.

This is a great hobby, and I love to see new people get in to it. But I urge you to do it correctly. Please get an instructor and get proper training. After you have started with the instructor I know that working on the simulator will shorten the time it takes you to solo, but it can't replace the instructor.

Hope this helps

Ken

thanks ken

You bet. Good luck on learning. This is a great addiction, uhhh, ummm, hmmmmm hobby. Yeah, that's it. It's a hobby!!

Have a great time

Ken

7 hours is a long way to travel for flight training, a lot of people have learned how to fly from a simulator. i used G2 software for about 1 to 2 hours a day for four months, and the first day i flew my avistar another flyer could not believe i had only flown twice , i flew the avistar for 9 month's before i crashed it.

so chris the simulator worked well for you? And also is there any plane like a park flyer I could buy that would train me for the trainer.

if you want to try this on your own, i would recommend a trainer with a flat bottom wing and large chord, like a sig kadet senior. something like that will fly very similar to the park flyer you have. Best solution is to get someone to train you though. in my experience, the flight simulator speeds up the learning curve with an instructor, but does not necessarily replace the instructor.

I learned from a Begin-Air 4 channel plane. Sure I had a few crashes but the plane was always easy to repair. A few things I know that makes flying easier....fly high....cut thottle if out of control...when plane is coming toward you move stick towards low wing to level out.
Good luck & happy flying

JJ

Don't be afraid to do this, in the beginning I had a fear of going to high thinking I would lose reception or something.

the simulator will help you get oreintaion and stick control down but there are differences between real flying and the simulator. The simulator will give you a fighting chance of a plane surviving the first flight if you don't have an instructor. The only other advice I have is to maybe buy a slightly less well flying trainer like a duraplane or a Kombat 40 armidillo or maybe even build a spad. These airplanes fly a little hotter then regular planes and are heavier but they are extremly durable. I have cartwelled a duraplane 3 full rotations and I just slid the wing back into proper orientaion refueled replaced the prop and took off again. They can take a beating if you don't have someone to help you

Now everyone hear be as honest as possible if buy a simulator and master it and master my park flyer and maybe buy another 3 channel plane and master it to do I have any experience to help me fly my tower trainer?