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Old 12-26-2005 | 07:41 AM
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Is this any good? I've never flown an Rc Plane before and would like to start flying.
I want something cheap to start with just to get an idea of the hobby and just to get used to flying.
This plane claims to be strong when it comes to crashes and seems to have a nice flying time and also very light weight.
So what do you guys think? I plan on flying in quite a large feild.
Old 12-26-2005 | 07:53 AM
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rj1991,
What airplane? You didn't list any plane for us to look at.

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Old 12-26-2005 | 08:13 AM
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http://www.rchobby.co.uk/ready_to_fl...ger_shark.html

Oops Sorry there it is.
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Hi!

It's an airplane which many of us (most of us) that has been into R/C would call: "A toy airplane"
It will probably work OK as a toy... but the question is ...what do you have in mind? If you just want to try out flying a toy airplane for a couple of minutes, it is fine... it will probably give you lots of fun.
The problem with the airplane is that has only a 2channel transmitter, only has 200m range and the radio gear is not removable when you want to move them over to another airplane.
The radio we R/C addicts use, looks like this (see picture). It has a surface range of 1000m or more ( twice that or more in the air) and the servos and receiver is easily removed from the airplane when you want to change plane.
The airplane I use as a trainer in my club looks like this: It's a Kyosho trainer (slightly modified), powered by a 4,5cc (.28) two-stroke glow powered engine and weights 1,75kg.
Span is 165cm.
There are many other high winged trainer aircraft around that looks like this and are equally good and there is also electric powered airplanes that are very good to to start with. But if you are serious about starting in R/C I would recommend you joining the nearest club.
Being a club member makes learning to fly R/C much more easy and you won't do as many expensive mistakes.

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Old 12-26-2005 | 10:19 AM
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I see [X(] I'm 14 at the moment and live in the UK and havn't got loads to spend.
I would light to start flying and just get a plane which will be usable in medium size feilds.
Can you suggest any planes inparticular which I can purchase in the UK for around £100 (at most if poss)
which will allow me to start flying properly and easily. I really love the idea of taking off from the ground,
is that a tad complex for a begginner? Thanks
Old 12-26-2005 | 10:19 AM
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I don't think you will be happy with that plane. The plane turns by varying the speed of one of the motors and climbs/dives by the motor speed. MANY of the RTF planes (especially the "toy" ones ) are marginal flyers at best.

If you want an RTF to learn how to fly on I suggest something like the Easy Star http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXFXV0&P=ML The plane has adequate power to fly, and being a "foamy" is going to be hard to destroy.

In any event, I HIGHLY recommend an instructor. It will make learning substantially easier and you will not be learning any bad habits.
Old 12-26-2005 | 10:31 AM
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With the easy star though don't you have to buy it all seperately and build it thus causing much hassle and expenses?
I would like to just buy a plane set it up quickly and flying with the least amount of hassle possible.
Again at a affordable price.
Old 12-26-2005 | 10:42 AM
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http://www.storacingproducts.com/cgi...owprod_AV1RTR4

What about this? Its not too pricey and 4 channel!! With a great range!
Flying time isn't great but that isn't too bad.
Claims to be a good starter plane what you lot think?
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Hi!
If you want to learn flying R/C join a club!
There are many R/C clubs in the UK.
Flying R/C is not something you learn "in a jippy"...it takes months (years for some) and crashes are always involved so you just cant say: I want ONE airplane...

You probably have the notion that you buy a plane and then go out on some field and fly it!
It isn't that easy!!! Flying a "real" R/C plane must be learned, and this is easiest learned in a club. It also requires a lot of space. A school yard is not enough when you are a newcomer.

-But all these " ready built toy airplanes then, that you see in shops and on the net"? ...Yes you can buy them and fly them, but most of them are not considered to be "R/C airpalnes the way most of us on this forum would call "an R/C plane". They are not controlled by elevator and ailerons as a regular R/C airplane and doesn't have the power either to have adequate controllability.
There are some really good electric airplanes to start with though , like this Multiplex trainer made out of foam (impossible to crush), se picture.
Here a link to a Swedish hobby shop where you can obtain real good electric airplanes. www.MFT.nu
And here is a Danish site which has lots of electric powered models.
http://www.el-fly.dk/start.htm

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Hi!
Sorry!
That airplane is not good!!!! Not compared with the Graupner foam trainer I showed above.
Forget about taking off from the ground...it's not possible for you as a newcomer to do this ...and besides the airplane doesn't have the power to climb out the way you want it to do...the way you see it in your mind...
For competent pilot take offs from the ground (paved asfalt runway, grass NO) would be no problem but the power wouldn't be there as this airplane is just powered by a brushed cheap electric motor and uses ordinary Nicad or Nickel hydrid cells.
You see... many of todays electric airplanes uses litium jon batteries and brushless motors (outrunners) which gives even better power than with a glow engine.
Here is a picture of one of the the best small electric motors available, an AXI which weights only 25g.

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But the plane you showed me above is not sold in one peice ready to fly I don't think.
+ I can't read swedish for them websites could you try find me a good plane on an English site which isn't toooo pricey? Thanks
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Hi!
Well the web sites I showed you have text in English (at least one of them ). Just click on the English flag.
If not take a look at the airplanes and other stuff! Shows what most of us consider "good electric airplanes ...both for out and in door flying, both for newcomers and more experienced fliers. Have a look at all the high winged models...that's how you start flying!

As for getting the R/C gear and plane separately...that way you know you get quality!!!
It's only "toy" airplanes you get in a complete package with radio and batteries. ( I know there is exceptions to this... )

The Multiplex Easy star is very good first model for those wishing to try R/C flying ...It's not the recommended trainer if you have access to a club and an instructor ...but for anyone that want to try R/C flying by going out anywhere, on a large field, frozen lake or whatever...then it's good.
And there are just a couple of parts that have to be glued. Very simple to assemble even for young kid.

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