Hi all

I'm looking for a second plane after our World Star 40. I've flown electrics before, but this is our first IC plane.

In doing my research I've come up with 2 categories of planes - sports planes (such as the world models Super Sports 40), and fun fly or stunt planes (like ugly sticks). Can someone please explain the difference?

Is one more aerobatic than another? Would I be right in thinking that the sticks are aerobatic at slower speeds than the sport planes? Are sport planes faster? Is one better for a second plane than another, or does it depend on the type of flying you enjoy? Is one going to last longer (not grow out of it so fast)?

I'm trying to choose between the world models Super Sports 40 and their Super Stunt 40 (another version of the ugly stick as far as I can tell) - see pics below. The super stunt looks (to the layman) very similar to our high wing trainer (high wing, same wing span, larger wing area) - will it fly like the trainer?

Please help!

Many thanks

(pic of Super Stunt followed by sport)

Peter

Pic of WM Super Sport

Peter,

I guess it depends on the manufacturer, or "what's in a name?"
Stunt planes tend to be more for "fun fly" type aerobatics, and sport planes are generally more "scale" looking, and for general flying-both are good second planes.
Also, you could pretty much set up either for your type of flying by how much control throw you use, power, ect. The "stick type" planes generally have the shoulder wing, although the wing is more toward the center of the fuse compared to a trainer, whereas the "sport" planes tend to have low wing, canopy, cowling ect. Both types usually have semi-symetrical wings, as where trainers have flat bottom wings. Trainers land a little slower, and don't do very well upside down, stick and sport models are more versitile.
The choice is yours.


Jetts

Thanks Jetts

Does the bigger wing area of the stick make it slower (and the smaller wing area of the sports faster)? This seems to be the biggest difference in terms of the specs of these 2 planes.

Our World Star has a semi-symetrical wing so flies inverted quite well. I want a second plane that we wont grow out of too quickly....

Peter

One has a cunning Stunt & the other has a stunning stunt .

have Fun .

Cheers.

A

Peter,

Yes, all else being the same, the bigger wing area will lower your stall/landing speed. Not sure how much airtime you have, but if this is a second plane I'd go with the stick. Slower doesn't mean boring-it usually means the plane lasts longer! Still easy to land, dosen't have a wicked snap/stall, all manouvers are done at a lower, more "scale like" speed, all add up to - fun!
I have trained a LOT of people, from my 8 year old daughter, to people twice my age, and most want to go to a Mustang, or the like right away. Usually if hardheadedness prevails, they find that these planes with the higher wingloadings are NOT as much FUN to fly, but just go real fast, and land the same. (not good if your field is grass,-lots of time spent putting gear back in, changing props, ect.)
You could also "spice up" the stick by adding a canopy/flashy finish, ect. to personalize it. These planes are good second planes, that build fast and are a joy to take off/fly/land, not to mention the fact that they are great aerobatic trainers. Should keep you happy as long as it lasts.

Jetts

P.S. I just have to ask, what is the surface the stick is sitting on in the picture you posted?

Thanks jetts

My son and I have both done a bit of electric flying (zagi - reasonably aerobatic electric wing) and 6 months on trainer. I'd say we are good for relative beginners. My main concern with the stick was that it looks so similar to the trainer - not so much worried about appearance, just worried that it will fly very similar to trainer. Both have high wing, light wing loading.....

Below is a pick of the World Star 40 - will the World Models Super Stunt stick fly differently to this?

Thanks for your help.

Peter

p.s. not sure about the grass under the stick - I'm guessing this is an english thing.....certainly nothing like that in Australia.

Peter,

If you guys are used to flying a Zagi, then your doing pretty good. Not having flown these exact planes, (worldstar) I can't give you a really good answer. All I can tell you, is that the "stick'' models usually have the wing mounted closer to the thrust line, and roll and do general aerobatics a lot better,even though it looks similar to a trainer. Usually the control surfaces are a little bigger than a trainer's too. If you keep your wing loading down around 15 to 18 oz. per square foot, the "sport'' model would be my next choice.(It definately looks a lot better!)
I don't really think that you'll be disapointed with either model, so the choice is yours, if you have to you two can flip a coin and get either, then modify as you go.
Hope I've helped, not confused.

Jetts

Thanks Jetts - much appreciated.

The fact that the stick will do aerobatics better than the trainer is very helpful to know. I suspect my son (12) will vote on appearances, so the Sport looks like the winner.

Thanks again

Peter

I fly the Super Stunts 40 with a TT GP 42, and it flys great with no bad habits. Slow when you need it to be and pretty darn fast as well. I say get em both, heh heh.