Well the more to think about now the better off I will be in the end when I do make my purchase. And Yeah my corsair requires 5 channels and I was also just looking at transmitters earilier today at the hobby shop. They had a 4 channel transmitter in stock with 4 servos and a reciever for about $175... the 6 channel (not in stock) went for about $200. The way I see it now, I wont be flying my corsair for a while and the trainer package I am looking at will cost me about the same as just the cost of the transmitter... If I was to buy the 6 channel controler... and lets say I got a good deal online for $100, then I would still have to buy the trainer plane. and if it was an ARF, then I would also have to buy an engine and servos... The way I see it, there is just a great cost advantage of just buying this kit and keeping it around for a while, dispite that the parts are not interchangeable with my corsair. When I do move to my corsair, I'll just have to fork up the money to buy a new engine, servos, and transmitter... while still being able to keep my trainer around in case my friends wish to give it a try...

Do you agree?

I JUST READ AN ARTICLE ABOUT USING 5% NITRO IN THE LARGE SAITO ENGINES AS THE RPM AND POWER IMPROVE SIGNIFICANTLY----INSTEAD OF 15% . HAS ANYONE HEARD OF THIS? WE'RE TALKIN A CONSIDERABLE SAVINGS IF THIS IS TRUE. I HAVE A SAITO 180 AND A 150 I CAN'T WAIT TO TRY THIS OUT ON, BUT DON'T WANT TO INVEST IN A GALLON TILL I GET SOME KIND OF CONFIRMATION.

I heard that same thing too but for a different engine...



"If you really want to make a Super Tigre engine perform we recommend using fuels with 5% or less nitro content. This may go against what you have been told but we have seen it time and time again; reducing the nitro content to 5% increases RPM 600-900 RPM."

One other question... can you ever have to much torque from a servo...

Hi falconlb46,
No, you can never have to much torque, the issue here is price and weight. It would be costly to put a 250oz-in servo in your trainer unless you had plans for it down the road. I would plan on putting a little better servo in the Corsair such as a coreless or digital, and stick with the standard for the trainer, this should keep the warbird on the shelf for a couple of years. I would avoid buying the cheap 4 channel radio and spring for the 9C or another quality computer radio, use the standard servo's for the trainer and then pick and choose servo's as you need them for your next plane, you will be happy you spent the extra money, you'll need it for the corsair anyway.

The price for the 6 channel is not too bad (was it a computer or non-computer model?), but most mail order places sell basic 4 channel radios for around $120.
My earlier statement about parts compatibility was before you said what plane you were looking at. The servos, receiver, battery, etc that come in the TT trainer will be compatable with future planes. In fact, if you upgrade to a computer radio later, as long as you get a compatable shift (Hitec is usually negative like Futaba), it'll be able to control the TT trainer.
I agree it's a great idea to plan to keep your trainer even after you've moved on to other planes.

What I'm not convinced about is that the RTF packages offer a significant price advantage. Consider the following:
$70 Tower trainer ARF
$70 .46 plain bearing
$120 4 channel (Hitec, JR, Futaba, Airtronics)
$30 Misc stuff (glue, extra props, glow plugs, etc)
$290 Total
At this time, Tower's offering a $20 discount on orders over $125, so if you split the above into 2 orders, it'll end up less than $270 (shipping is around $8 per order). This will give you a slightly more powerful engine, and some of the $30 in stuff wouldn't come with the RTF package.

Now, if you want to upgrade a little, here's another option:
$70 Tower trainer
$90 .46 ball bearing
$180 6 channel computer radio (Hitec, JR, Futaba, Airtronics)
$30 Misc stuff (glue, extra props, glow plugs, etc)
$370 Total
Splitting the order in 2 (if you're creative or order a bit more, you could go with 3) and applying the same discount as above, you end up spending aroud $350. However, for the $50 extra (compared to the street price of $300 quoted in the article you posted on the TT Trainer RTF), you get a more versitile engine, and a radio that will last you several more planes, and in all likelyhood, for years to come.

The examples above are just a few of the many ways you can make this work. Food for thought...

I know that this isn't relevant to the trainer discussion, but just as a matter of interest, if you have ever seen a GP 42 on a Quickie, you'll change your mind in a hurry about how fast one of those engines will push a model.

It is actually better-suited to a speed model than a trainer. It makes an actual 1.11 dyno-tested HP at a genuine 16,500 RPM. Unlike many (most?) sport engines on the market, it actually reaches its advertised max HP, and at the advertised RPM. It will easily push a Quickie 500 past 100 MPH & I've clocked my clipped-wing Gremlin at 99 MPH with a TT 42 GP.

You could just get the .60 size trainer instead which comes with the .65 engine and a 6ch radio.
This stuff will go right into your corsair. 399$ and it comes with a 50$ merchandise rebate that will buy a good bit if your other equipment. Then there will be a promo discount of at least 20$. You can join the super savers club for about what you would pay for shipping and get free shipping and maybe get a better promo deal and a bunch of coupons. Anyway here is a link.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXGHD4**&P=7

One thing to remember in this sport: Tower is your friend. Even if you don't order from Tower, We had a HobbyTown locally here a few years back, and they matched all of Towers prices. No guarentee your LHS will do that, but worst they can say is NO.

First of all you will need some nose weight if you go with the 1.20. I suggest you look into the Super Tigre G2300 which sells at Tower for $140. And don't mind the nay-sayers. I do also suggest that you listen to those who caution you about flying the corsair with out help, even as an intermediate pilot. They are tricky airplanes to take-off. Good luck. P.S. I think you will find in time that it is far more satisfying to buy your gear new, rather than taking a chance on others junk. Why start off in the hobby with bad experiences. If you were buying the engine from a friend who is trying to introduce you to the hobby I would advise you to do it, but a lot of people try to peddle their junk on folks, so beware.