well i have built the pt-40 and the venture 60,i do not have time to build till winter,looking for a good plane, i hate saying this an arf. i have an os-91 4 stroke that needs a home. one that i can learn more manuvers with without sacrificing my new venture,i hope this makes sense,thanks

Sounds like you're looking for what I call a "beater plane". There's a thread in the sport flying forum where people are listing their beaters. You might find something interesting there.

Model tech funfly 90
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/123752.asp

skiman,will it take a os=91 4 stroke?? thanks

Cant beat a stik for a wring it out plane

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXBMM8&P=0

that would be plenty of power with a wide blade prop maybe a 16x4w apc
I know the 15x4w works well on the saito 82 so a 16 should be about right for the 90
I have the modeltech magic 3d with a 52magnum and it is a blast I would like the 90 size because my eyes aren't what they used to be

I used the same engine on an Ultra Stick 60 and now it is on an Ohio Model products Katana 70 profile. Both are quick to get in the air.

I like skiman762's suggestion - the Fun Fly 90 by Model Tech is a 3D-capable ugly stik design. You can fly it sport style on low rates or 3D on high rates. Hobby People has the Fun Fly 90 on sale this month for $139.99, $30 off the usual price. It should fly great with a .90 4-stroke on it, too.

Another good choice might be Cloud Dancer 60 by Ace Hobby:

http://www.thundertiger4u.com/cloud-dancer-p-11040.html

The Cloud Dancer 60 is a terrific looking sport plane that would be fun to throw around and would probably be OK as a practice plane for pattern flying, too. You can buy it for $193.99 from thundertiger4u.com and they'll ship it at no charge ($150 or more = free shipping).

check tower hobbies the big stick is 139$ and they are advertising 20$ off your order of 150$ if I didnt have so many planes I would pick one up myself.

Uproar 40 arf, its like $80 now, put a 46 in that and cheap+fun. I'm waiting for my 60 to get here so I can build it. My dad has a Uproar 40 and its light as anything, flies ok with a OS 40LA, but he got a super tiger 51 for it. Ought to be able to hover it with that. Great airplane.

He has an os 91 he is just looking for a plane