electrify FlatOuts?
05-25-2006 | 03:01 PM
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electrify FlatOuts?
alright while surfing towerhobbies i noticed a 20dollar?! arf and i hadda click to see what it was. so their foam and says they fly slow, (good to learn) with the ridiculus price all i would need is a contol, if im not mistaken. ,yeah and whats an afordable but decent radio.
thanks.
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05-25-2006 | 03:33 PM
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RE: electrify FlatOuts?
If you search around there is a flight pack for electric airplanes (i want to say GWS puts it out ) that has everything you need for about $68.
I have a GWS Slow Stick that flys nice and slow and is easy to handle for about the same price as that flat out.
I have a GWS Slow Stick that flys nice and slow and is easy to handle for about the same price as that flat out.
05-25-2006 | 04:15 PM
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I bought an Electrifly FlatOut Cap 580 and tried to put it together, I found the plane to be unnecessarily complex to build with lots of small, brittle plastic pieces. I got frustrated and put the FlatOut Cap 580 back in the box.
I read a review in the January '06 issue of Backyard Flyer for the Thunder Tiger Giles 202 Profile EP and decided to try one of those instead. It took me less time to build the whole Thunder Tiger foamy than it took to glue the horizontal tail stab to the elevator on the Cap 580.
I used the GWS Pico servos and 4 Channel GWS Pico receiver on the TT Giles that I'd bought for the Cap 580. I also used the Electrifly ESC and LiPo battery. The plane was a blast to fly indoors and out, and I've since built and flown the Thunder Tiger Christen Eagle Profile EP with similar joyful results.
I like Great Planes products, but their FlatOut line of electric foamies is unnecessarily complicated to build and not very popular with folks who have tried them. My advice is to visit http://www.thundertiger4u.com and check out the Thunder Tiger Profile EP ARFs instead: Expo 3D, Christen Eagle, and Giles 202
The fly great outdoors in wind, they can be slowed down for indoor flight in a large gymnasium, they can be flown wide open in full 3D mode, or flown gently. It's a shame that the Thunder Tiger Profile EP foamies are such a well kept secret, because they are the best value for electric flight that I've ever seen!
I read a review in the January '06 issue of Backyard Flyer for the Thunder Tiger Giles 202 Profile EP and decided to try one of those instead. It took me less time to build the whole Thunder Tiger foamy than it took to glue the horizontal tail stab to the elevator on the Cap 580.
I used the GWS Pico servos and 4 Channel GWS Pico receiver on the TT Giles that I'd bought for the Cap 580. I also used the Electrifly ESC and LiPo battery. The plane was a blast to fly indoors and out, and I've since built and flown the Thunder Tiger Christen Eagle Profile EP with similar joyful results.
I like Great Planes products, but their FlatOut line of electric foamies is unnecessarily complicated to build and not very popular with folks who have tried them. My advice is to visit http://www.thundertiger4u.com and check out the Thunder Tiger Profile EP ARFs instead: Expo 3D, Christen Eagle, and Giles 202
The fly great outdoors in wind, they can be slowed down for indoor flight in a large gymnasium, they can be flown wide open in full 3D mode, or flown gently. It's a shame that the Thunder Tiger Profile EP foamies are such a well kept secret, because they are the best value for electric flight that I've ever seen!
05-25-2006 | 05:04 PM
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RE: electrify FlatOuts?
ORIGINAL: bigedmustafa
I bought an Electrifly FlatOut Cap 580 and tried to put it together, I found the plane to be unnecessarily complex to build with lots of small, brittle plastic pieces. I got frustrated and put the FlatOut Cap 580 back in the box.
I read a review in the January '06 issue of Backyard Flyer for the Thunder Tiger Giles 202 Profile EP and decided to try one of those instead. It took me less time to build the whole Thunder Tiger foamy than it took to glue the horizontal tail stab to the elevator on the Cap 580.
I used the GWS Pico servos and 4 Channel GWS Pico receiver on the TT Giles that I'd bought for the Cap 580. I also used the Electrifly ESC and LiPo battery. The plane was a blast to fly indoors and out, and I've since built and flown the Thunder Tiger Christen Eagle Profile EP with similar joyful results.
I like Great Planes products, but their FlatOut line of electric foamies is unnecessarily complicated to build and not very popular with folks who have tried them. My advice is to visit http://www.thundertiger4u.com and check out the Thunder Tiger Profile EP ARFs instead: Expo 3D, Christen Eagle, and Giles 202
The fly great outdoors in wind, they can be slowed down for indoor flight in a large gymnasium, they can be flown wide open in full 3D mode, or flown gently. It's a shame that the Thunder Tiger Profile EP foamies are such a well kept secret, because they are the best value for electric flight that I've ever seen!
I bought an Electrifly FlatOut Cap 580 and tried to put it together, I found the plane to be unnecessarily complex to build with lots of small, brittle plastic pieces. I got frustrated and put the FlatOut Cap 580 back in the box.
I read a review in the January '06 issue of Backyard Flyer for the Thunder Tiger Giles 202 Profile EP and decided to try one of those instead. It took me less time to build the whole Thunder Tiger foamy than it took to glue the horizontal tail stab to the elevator on the Cap 580.
I used the GWS Pico servos and 4 Channel GWS Pico receiver on the TT Giles that I'd bought for the Cap 580. I also used the Electrifly ESC and LiPo battery. The plane was a blast to fly indoors and out, and I've since built and flown the Thunder Tiger Christen Eagle Profile EP with similar joyful results.
I like Great Planes products, but their FlatOut line of electric foamies is unnecessarily complicated to build and not very popular with folks who have tried them. My advice is to visit http://www.thundertiger4u.com and check out the Thunder Tiger Profile EP ARFs instead: Expo 3D, Christen Eagle, and Giles 202
The fly great outdoors in wind, they can be slowed down for indoor flight in a large gymnasium, they can be flown wide open in full 3D mode, or flown gently. It's a shame that the Thunder Tiger Profile EP foamies are such a well kept secret, because they are the best value for electric flight that I've ever seen!
05-25-2006 | 08:55 PM
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RE: electrify FlatOuts?
I have a question about these flatouts. I have a nice sized backyard, fenced in. It is 100' x65'. It is well sheltered from wind. Do they fly slow enough to fly at a site like that? How durable are they? Can they take a few hits or are they so inexpensive because you just replace them once you crash it? I have never flown electrics, but it is appealing to be able to walk into my backyard and fly instead of packing up the car and going to the local club field.
05-25-2006 | 09:32 PM
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RE: electrify FlatOuts?
Mine took quite a few hits. I would think it would fly ok in a small area, but I would make sure to get comfortable with it in a larger area first.
05-25-2006 | 11:44 PM
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RE: electrify FlatOuts?
Some people fly in their bedroom, they are that good a pilot. So whether you can fly in your backyard depends on your ability. If in doubt, don't do it. In an area of 100 x 65' you need to have good control and you will be using your rudder a lot to turn. If not about how slow it flies.
05-26-2006 | 01:50 PM
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"The most complaints I have seen about this plane is inserting the zarms into the round holes."
--mrrcaerobat
You hit the nail on the head. I kept busting the little plastic z-bends while trying to snap them into the control horns, then waiting for replacement parts trees to be shipped out. I was also frustrated by trying to glue the Cap 580 together using thin foam-safe CA and no accelerant. It seemed like it took forever for the glue to set.
I thought I was the only one who got frustrated trying to build a FlatOut, but I ran into several other folks that I fly indoors with who had similar complaints. Difficult to build, pop-out control surfaces were fragile, etc.
I finally asked a club member who routinely scratch builds flying wings and park flyers out of blue foam if he'd mind putting my Cap 580 together, and he said he'd be happy to do it. He had it together in a couple of hours.
Some folks can build the FlatOuts without any trouble, others find them difficult to work with. I don't know what particular skill set that I am personally lacking, all I know is I can slap together a Thunder Tiger Profile EP foamy together with ease, while Great Planes Flatouts leave me confused and frustrated. If you're a good builder, give the FlatOuts a try. If you're not an experienced builder, the Thunder Tiger Profile EPs may be a better choice. That's all I'm saying.
--mrrcaerobat
You hit the nail on the head. I kept busting the little plastic z-bends while trying to snap them into the control horns, then waiting for replacement parts trees to be shipped out. I was also frustrated by trying to glue the Cap 580 together using thin foam-safe CA and no accelerant. It seemed like it took forever for the glue to set.
I thought I was the only one who got frustrated trying to build a FlatOut, but I ran into several other folks that I fly indoors with who had similar complaints. Difficult to build, pop-out control surfaces were fragile, etc.
I finally asked a club member who routinely scratch builds flying wings and park flyers out of blue foam if he'd mind putting my Cap 580 together, and he said he'd be happy to do it. He had it together in a couple of hours.
Some folks can build the FlatOuts without any trouble, others find them difficult to work with. I don't know what particular skill set that I am personally lacking, all I know is I can slap together a Thunder Tiger Profile EP foamy together with ease, while Great Planes Flatouts leave me confused and frustrated. If you're a good builder, give the FlatOuts a try. If you're not an experienced builder, the Thunder Tiger Profile EPs may be a better choice. That's all I'm saying.
05-26-2006 | 02:04 PM
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RE: electrify FlatOuts?
I can't speak to the flat out personally, as I was going to get one but at the last minute decided to go with the shockflyer instead. It was relatively easy to assemble. The one problem I had was that I left it in the back seat of my pick up for a couple hours last summer & the tail feathers melted into a moon shaped droop. I tried everything to re-shape them but it did no good. The flat out is very similar to the shockflyer. I've found that all the 3mm flat wing stuff out there are too flexy for my liking. The AirfoilZ however is another ball game. It has a true airfoil wing, a built up fuse inside the foam, clet style hinges & these things fly like a big plane. Granted they cost more money but you get what you pay for. In my opinion the AirfoilZ, & Copperhead Stiffy are the best foamies available. Also once you have purchased an AirfoilZ your name goes into their list making you eligible for their monthly give away. I just won for month of May & they sent me an Edge 540 for free. Now I have their Yak & the Edge, both really nice planes.
Once you fly an AirfoilZ you won't want to go back to any of the flat wing foamies!!
Once you fly an AirfoilZ you won't want to go back to any of the flat wing foamies!!
08-16-2006 | 09:53 PM
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RE: electrify FlatOuts?
I have a shock-flyer that I will never bother building. I built a Tensor...what a pain! All of the $50 shock flyers are on sale at my favorite LHS for $20 and I will never buy one again.
I get all my foamies for under $30 and they build quick (20 minutes), fly EXCELLENTLY (3-D and aerobatics as well as perfect level and precision flight), are VERY durable (I get about 6 weeks of hauling it around in my truck and flying it HARD EVERY SINGLE DAY before they are too beat up to be fun, but they will still fly much longer) and are easy to repair.
I buy all of my foamies from the same place and I am still amazed at how well they fly, hover, knife-edge and harrier. To look at them, you would not expect them to fly so darn well, even WHILE they are flying...it still astonishes me sometimes.
Foamies are the best simulator money can buy!
I get all my foamies for under $30 and they build quick (20 minutes), fly EXCELLENTLY (3-D and aerobatics as well as perfect level and precision flight), are VERY durable (I get about 6 weeks of hauling it around in my truck and flying it HARD EVERY SINGLE DAY before they are too beat up to be fun, but they will still fly much longer) and are easy to repair.
I buy all of my foamies from the same place and I am still amazed at how well they fly, hover, knife-edge and harrier. To look at them, you would not expect them to fly so darn well, even WHILE they are flying...it still astonishes me sometimes.
Foamies are the best simulator money can buy!
08-17-2006 | 09:16 AM
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RE: electrify FlatOuts?
ORIGINAL: flyinrog
They're on sale for $20 because they are getting nothing but bad reviews..Rog
They're on sale for $20 because they are getting nothing but bad reviews..Rog
Lol, You're probably right, I am glad to see them coming down to earth finally.
