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Old 12-23-2002 | 06:02 PM
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Like i said before im only on a trainer however since the winter holidays Ive got alot ive free time so ive decided to buy another airplane kit. To build not to fly until the summer (May/ June)
not exactly sure what im getting but i have a bit of an idea.
Firstly i have a 4VF radio and a .40 engine. I dont mind getting a new engine but i definitly want to stick with that radio for my second plane.
Three planes that i espiecially like are the P-47 Thunderbolt, the P-51D Mustang, and the Sig Somethin Extra. From what ive heard only the SE would do as a seond plane. However if a were to get the SE would i be able to get one of the above warbirds as a third plane and not totally destroy it?
I would proabably get 5 extra servos and switch around the reciever and battery/ This to hard or would it work?
Also im waiting on the engine to see if i can get a used one at my club auctio which is in the beginning of Febuary how far can i ge tin construction without an engine?
Any suggestions for a second plane would be highly appreciated

Thank you,

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Old 12-23-2002 | 06:17 PM
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I would suggest the Carl goldberg Tiger II or mayve a Sig 4*

You can build the Tail and wing without the engine you can also build most if not all of the fuse on these two planes
Old 12-23-2002 | 06:26 PM
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The SE may work well as a second plane......but I agree with Crashem, the Tiger 2 or 4 star would work better. Also, don't rule out the Sig Mid-Star 40 or the World Models Super Sports 40 as 2nd planes. The war birds you mentioned could work as 3rd planes after you're totally comfortable with your 2nd plane.

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Old 12-23-2002 | 07:36 PM
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I would get the Tiger 2,Sig Midstar or something similar as the second plane,the the 4* or SE as the third then get the military planes after mastering the others.
Old 12-25-2002 | 04:54 PM
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I just had my first lesson and after talking to my instructor ive decided to wait on the SE to my third or fourth plane. But as a second plane im wondering about the following planes:
Note: All planes are between .40 - .50 engine size
- Cessna (dont know where to find a .40 kit)
- GP RV-4
- GP Extra 300s
- GP F-15 (Ive heard it is a good second plane from someone)
- GP Supersports star 40MKII
- GP Ultra Sport 40
- Piper Cub
Any of these sound good for a second plane.
Old 12-26-2002 | 02:29 PM
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The planes that you listed are more like a third as well.

How about:
Sig 4*, Sig Mid-Star, Tiger, Venture, Easy Sport, any stick.

Just do a search on "2nd plane" or "Second Plane" and you will find that this question has been asked alot and you should find all the answers you are looking for.
Old 12-26-2002 | 02:40 PM
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SIG 4*60. Relatively easy to build, plenty of technical info at RCU, flies like a dream.............
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Originally posted by PaPa-NeGeorgeo
I just had my first lesson and after talking to my instructor ive decided to wait on the SE to my third or fourth plane. But as a second plane im wondering about the following planes:
Note: All planes are between .40 - .50 engine size
- Cessna (dont know where to find a .40 kit)
- GP RV-4
- GP Extra 300s
- GP F-15 (Ive heard it is a good second plane from someone)
- GP Supersports star 40MKII
- GP Ultra Sport 40
- Piper Cub
Any of these sound good for a second plane.

the Rv-4 looks to be a good stable low wing to play with.

extra 300s I wouldnt recomend. too touchy on landing and slow speed, can get you into trouble.

f-15 dont know. looks to be tamed down a bit from "normal propjets" but i cant say for sure.

super sportster, looks like a nice gentle flying sport plane. another good choice.

ultrasport again a good choice.

piper cub. great addition to any hangar. good to learn on, can do some basic aerobatics, and are a pleasure to fly once you get used to them. they do have a few "quirks" but all of these are easy to overcome and teach you things you need to learn for future planes. of all the choices this is an excellent second plane and is good for a long time if you want some relaxing flight.

(can you tell i like Piper Cubs?)

as was suggested before the sig 4-star series is also an exelent choice, easy to fly and land gentle as a trainer. the tiger II and the venture are very similar and all fly great.

also the sig astrohog is a great flying plane, one of the guys at our field has one (even though its been in the dirt and "rebuilt" a bit)
Old 12-26-2002 | 03:32 PM
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I would vote for the Easy Sport. I had a 4*40, but for me the wing loading was too light (hard to get down when landing). The Easy Sport is a much better combination for a second plane IMHO.
Old 12-26-2002 | 09:27 PM
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Noone said anything about the Cessna is that a good second plane looks nice and stable?
Also anyone know where to get a .40-.50 size Cessna kit. I know GP makes a .40 ARF but i camt find the kit?
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As a flight instructor who has to worry about getting students something they can be successful with for their second plane, and as someone who's been around this hobby forever, I've tried almost everyone that's been listed above. I recommend the Tiger II to my students. It is very stable, gives great performance and is very easy to build. It will work with your radio and engine although a .46 will really pep it up. Landings with a Tiger II are a chinch. It will allow you to learn acrobatics easily. It's wing loading is medium to light which makes a great flyer. Carl Goldberg Models was purchased by Lanier. They now have the Tiger II back on the market. You can also get it as an ARF.
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I'm building a GP Ultra Sport + 40 as a second plane, and first kit build. The kit is going well, the plane is a knockout, and if it flys like they say it does, it should be a good plane to grow with!
Old 12-27-2002 | 02:17 PM
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My second plane was an Ultra stick and as long as you get help setting the control throws to a minimum it is a very easy plane to fly and land also you can learn many acrobatic maneuvers when you are ready. My first Low wing was a sig 4 star .60 and it is a real easy plane to fly it does float so it lands more like a trainer than most low wing aircraft. I have found that after flying those two for a while I have really increased my flying skill and am now flying some warbirds and more advanced aircraft. I have found that the control throws are very important especially on a new plane A flying buddy of mine did not think this was a big deal and crashed his Ultra stick 60 on it's first flight because he had max control throw and could not handle it. Once he got another one and set the throws to a minimum he did great. Like I suggested get some help with the throws and have someone do a test flight for you and you'll do great.

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