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Old 06-16-2006 | 04:41 PM
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I'm looking at buying a trainer don't know which one to get I have the radio and field equipment i currently fly heli .I've looked at the sig lt 40 everyone seems to have one of these at the club engine 46ax os ,the TT 40 trainer or maybe going to the TT 60 trainer with either the TT61 gp pro or os 61 fx and futaba 127 4X3004 .
Looking for some input good or bad what to start with arf flying season is here and have a instructor setup to start in 2 weeks??
Old 06-16-2006 | 04:53 PM
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I like big trainers:
LT-40 is about the same physical size as many .60 trainers and is widely considered "the best"

In the .60 size category I have had:
Hobbico Hobbistar 60 ARF
Global Right Flyer 60H ARF
Great Planes PT-60 (kit)

They're all good. All 3 had a TT 61 Pro and pretty much the same electronics that you mentioned.

If I were getting a trainer ARF today I would choose between the well known models based on looks and price.
Old 06-16-2006 | 05:21 PM
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I don't think you will be dissapointed with any of the combos you mentioned. I am training with a Kadet senior myself with a TT Pro .46 I can say with confidence it can withstand abuse and flys nicely even in fairly high winds.
The OS, AX and Fx motors are nice as are the TT Pro.
I have an OS .32 in a Hirobo Shuttle and am happy with the peformance of the OS engines.
The Pro 46 in my trainer is a dream motor, it never needs tinkering, starts easy and runs like a demon.
The Futaba flight pack is good but I see no difference in performance (at least on a trainer) of the Hitec flight pack and it will save you some cash.
Best of luck.
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If you're leaning toward the 60 size, look at the Hobbico HobbiStar 60 MkIII. It has the semi-symetrical wing and is not so bad in the wind as a flat bottom and is easier to land since it doesn't balloon from the headwind and ground affects. The Avistar 40 is the same way in the 40 size. My students have had an easier time with those two when it came to landings. Not much difference in flight stability to the flat bottom other than you can advance to more flight stunts as your skill improves. Too many times I've seen the flats tip over and break a prop when trying to taxi with a side wind.
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Too many times I've seen the flats tip over and break a prop when trying to taxi with a side wind.
Very true. I have had 4 tipovers with my kadet. No broken props though. Master Airscrew props can take a licken and keep on ticken
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I would get an RC simulator and play with that for a bit. Then start out with an electric. Then fly glow. My brother has played on the simulator and we got him a Hobbyzone Extreme and he flew it fine, didn't crash.
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tks for the input everyone
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You're on the right track. All of the choices you listed are fine Trainers as well as good engine choices too. Most importantly you have an instructor!! You'll do fine with any those choices, & with your heli experience you will probably solo much quicker than most of us did. Good luck, I know you will do well because you're are going about it the right way, with the right attitude. Have a ball!![sm=thumbup.gif][sm=thumbup.gif][sm=thumbup.gif]
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Where you are with your heli flying should dictate what trainer you get.

If you're already into comfortable (that is, YOU'RE comfortable doing it) forward flight with the helcopter, then all you need to learn is how to land. The helis fly the same as fixed wing in forward flight, with less stability; so if you can steer your helicopter around upstairs with no issues, an airplane will give you no trouble.

Landing is another ball of wax; and the most difficult aspect of learning to fly.

What you're looking at here is wing design. This has been briefly touched upon in Randy's post. The Reader's Digest version is that a flat-bottomed wing is more stable and makes the airplane fly and react slower. The downside is the ground-handling problems noted, and the airplane really doesn't do aerobatics that great. You can force it to, but...

The semi-symmetrical wing makes the airplane a lot more lively, which is what you'll be looking for once you solo. However, it will fly the approach and landing pattern at a faster rate, thus complicating your learning curve and leaving much less room for error.

So, IMO, it really depends on how far you've gotten along with your heli flying. And you need to be honest with yourself. If you're still at the hovering only/knocking-knees stage, get a flat bottom wing- a TRUE trainer. OTOH, if you can fly your heli around comfortably, then by all means go for the semi-symmetrical wing airplane. I have taken fairly accomplished heli pilots and soloed them in one day on a Hobbico Avistar. Heli pilots are accustomed to paying close attention to the model, and make excellent students. Once they learn how to fly an approach and manage the throttle, they're good to go.

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