Bitten by the Warbird bug!!
07-11-2006 | 09:44 AM
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Bitten by the Warbird bug!!
I know this isn't really a beginner post but this is where all my RCU friends live & the people who's opinions that I have come to value & trust the most are all in here too. So if Ken feels obligated to move this thread, then I guess that is what he'll do.
So here's the situation. I have come across an opportunity to buy a Warbird that I really like at what I think is an exceptional price given the equipment used to set it up. The plane & engine only have 2 tanks of fuel ran thru it. Neither flight involved a bad or hard landing. The gentleman who owns & assembled it is only selling it to help finance a bigger build of a gas engine warbird.
We are talking about the Hangar 9 60 size P-51 Mustang ARF with a YS 110 4-stroke engine & 5 good HiTech servos. I don't remember the model #s of the servos off the top of my head but they are metal geared with a higher torque/speed rating than a standard servo. He has another low-profile HiTech servo for the retracts. The plane is RTF less the receiver & looks to be brand new & expertly assembled.
My friend Charlie knows the short history of this plane & the gentleman that owns it as he is the LHS owner & one of our club Instructors as well as being an AMA safety inspector. He assures me this plane is in tip-top shape! It looks beautiful & is even named after my pretty little "Trophy Wife"
, Marie.
I have went online & parted this thing together according to the equipment it has on it. I can't buy & put this thing together for less than $800 it looks like. At half that price, I think it is a steal!!
My only reservation is my own abilities. I don't have any Warbirds as of yet except for an Alpha Models Corsair which is a little brushless electric park-flyer size plane. (Doesn't really count as a Warbird in my book). Anyway, Charlie assures me that he thinks I am ready & can handle this P-51 Mustang with ease. He says he has been observing me for more than a year now & that I have grown in leaps & bounds as far as my flying is concerned. After watching me last Friday in a good cross-windy session with the WM Ultimate & few of my other planes he says I've smoothed right out & my landings are consistently good & much faster than need be for the planes I have been flying. ( Practicing for warbirds as I know they require being flown right to the ground at higher rates of speed).
So my question is more for the old timers in here that have come to know me pretty well.
1) Do you think I would be jumping the gun with this Mustang?
2) Do you think $400 would be a great price for this bird that is virtually brand new with a YS 110 & good servos on it?
3) Do you think I should wait until after I get out of the hospital which is sneeking up on me rapidly, (like next week)[:@]
I'm afraid if I don't jump on this thing quickly, someone else is going to notice that YS 110 hanging off of the front of it & snatch it up out from underneath me!![&:]
Your honest opinions, be it good or bad would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
So here's the situation. I have come across an opportunity to buy a Warbird that I really like at what I think is an exceptional price given the equipment used to set it up. The plane & engine only have 2 tanks of fuel ran thru it. Neither flight involved a bad or hard landing. The gentleman who owns & assembled it is only selling it to help finance a bigger build of a gas engine warbird.
We are talking about the Hangar 9 60 size P-51 Mustang ARF with a YS 110 4-stroke engine & 5 good HiTech servos. I don't remember the model #s of the servos off the top of my head but they are metal geared with a higher torque/speed rating than a standard servo. He has another low-profile HiTech servo for the retracts. The plane is RTF less the receiver & looks to be brand new & expertly assembled.
My friend Charlie knows the short history of this plane & the gentleman that owns it as he is the LHS owner & one of our club Instructors as well as being an AMA safety inspector. He assures me this plane is in tip-top shape! It looks beautiful & is even named after my pretty little "Trophy Wife"
, Marie.I have went online & parted this thing together according to the equipment it has on it. I can't buy & put this thing together for less than $800 it looks like. At half that price, I think it is a steal!!
My only reservation is my own abilities. I don't have any Warbirds as of yet except for an Alpha Models Corsair which is a little brushless electric park-flyer size plane. (Doesn't really count as a Warbird in my book). Anyway, Charlie assures me that he thinks I am ready & can handle this P-51 Mustang with ease. He says he has been observing me for more than a year now & that I have grown in leaps & bounds as far as my flying is concerned. After watching me last Friday in a good cross-windy session with the WM Ultimate & few of my other planes he says I've smoothed right out & my landings are consistently good & much faster than need be for the planes I have been flying. ( Practicing for warbirds as I know they require being flown right to the ground at higher rates of speed).
So my question is more for the old timers in here that have come to know me pretty well.
1) Do you think I would be jumping the gun with this Mustang?
2) Do you think $400 would be a great price for this bird that is virtually brand new with a YS 110 & good servos on it?
3) Do you think I should wait until after I get out of the hospital which is sneeking up on me rapidly, (like next week)[:@]
I'm afraid if I don't jump on this thing quickly, someone else is going to notice that YS 110 hanging off of the front of it & snatch it up out from underneath me!![&:]
Your honest opinions, be it good or bad would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
07-11-2006 | 10:31 AM
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I know this isn't really a beginner post but this is where all my RCU friends live & the people who's opinions that I have come to value & trust the most are all in here too. So if Ken feels obligated to move this thread, then I guess that is what he'll do.
So here's the situation. I have come across an opportunity to buy a Warbird that I really like at what I think is an exceptional price given the equipment used to set it up. The plane & engine only have 2 tanks of fuel ran thru it. Neither flight involved a bad or hard landing. The gentleman who owns & assembled it is only selling it to help finance a bigger build of a gas engine warbird.
We are talking about the Hangar 9 60 size P-51 Mustang ARF with a YS 110 4-stroke engine & 5 good HiTech servos. I don't remember the model #s of the servos off the top of my head but they are metal geared with a higher torque/speed rating than a standard servo. He has another low-profile HiTech servo for the retracts. The plane is RTF less the receiver & looks to be brand new & expertly assembled.
My friend Charlie knows the short history of this plane & the gentleman that owns it as he is the LHS owner & one of our club Instructors as well as being an AMA safety inspector. He assures me this plane is in tip-top shape! It looks beautiful & is even named after my pretty little "Trophy Wife", Marie.
I have went online & parted this thing together according to the equipment it has on it. I can't buy & put this thing together for less than $800 it looks like. At half that price, I think it is a steal!!
My only reservation is my own abilities. I don't have any Warbirds as of yet except for an Alpha Models Corsair which is a little brushless electric park-flyer size plane. (Doesn't really count as a Warbird in my book). Anyway, Charlie assures me that he thinks I am ready & can handle this P-51 Mustang with ease. He says he has been observing me for more than a year now & that I have grown in leaps & bounds as far as my flying is concerned. After watching me last Friday in a good cross-windy session with the WM Ultimate & few of my other planes he says I've smoothed right out & my landings are consistently good & much faster than need be for the planes I have been flying. ( Practicing for warbirds as I know they require being flown right to the ground at higher rates of speed).
So my question is more for the old timers in here that have come to know me pretty well.
1) Do you think I would be jumping the gun with this Mustang?
It depends on your flying ability. The Hanger 9 Mustang is not as "sensitive" as some of the others out there.
2) Do you think $400 would be a great price for this bird that is virtually brand new with a YS 110 & good servos on it?
It sounds like a very good deal.
3) Do you think I should wait until after I get out of the hospital which is sneeking up on me rapidly, (like next week)[:@]
That depends on your financial situation. If you can afford it, get it. It will give you something to look forward to when you get out of the hospital.
I'm afraid if I don't jump on this thing quickly, someone else is going to notice that YS 110 hanging off of the front of it & snatch it up out from underneath me!![&:]
Your honest opinions, be it good or bad would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I know this isn't really a beginner post but this is where all my RCU friends live & the people who's opinions that I have come to value & trust the most are all in here too. So if Ken feels obligated to move this thread, then I guess that is what he'll do.
So here's the situation. I have come across an opportunity to buy a Warbird that I really like at what I think is an exceptional price given the equipment used to set it up. The plane & engine only have 2 tanks of fuel ran thru it. Neither flight involved a bad or hard landing. The gentleman who owns & assembled it is only selling it to help finance a bigger build of a gas engine warbird.
We are talking about the Hangar 9 60 size P-51 Mustang ARF with a YS 110 4-stroke engine & 5 good HiTech servos. I don't remember the model #s of the servos off the top of my head but they are metal geared with a higher torque/speed rating than a standard servo. He has another low-profile HiTech servo for the retracts. The plane is RTF less the receiver & looks to be brand new & expertly assembled.
My friend Charlie knows the short history of this plane & the gentleman that owns it as he is the LHS owner & one of our club Instructors as well as being an AMA safety inspector. He assures me this plane is in tip-top shape! It looks beautiful & is even named after my pretty little "Trophy Wife"
, Marie.I have went online & parted this thing together according to the equipment it has on it. I can't buy & put this thing together for less than $800 it looks like. At half that price, I think it is a steal!!
My only reservation is my own abilities. I don't have any Warbirds as of yet except for an Alpha Models Corsair which is a little brushless electric park-flyer size plane. (Doesn't really count as a Warbird in my book). Anyway, Charlie assures me that he thinks I am ready & can handle this P-51 Mustang with ease. He says he has been observing me for more than a year now & that I have grown in leaps & bounds as far as my flying is concerned. After watching me last Friday in a good cross-windy session with the WM Ultimate & few of my other planes he says I've smoothed right out & my landings are consistently good & much faster than need be for the planes I have been flying. ( Practicing for warbirds as I know they require being flown right to the ground at higher rates of speed).
So my question is more for the old timers in here that have come to know me pretty well.
1) Do you think I would be jumping the gun with this Mustang?
It depends on your flying ability. The Hanger 9 Mustang is not as "sensitive" as some of the others out there.
2) Do you think $400 would be a great price for this bird that is virtually brand new with a YS 110 & good servos on it?
It sounds like a very good deal.
3) Do you think I should wait until after I get out of the hospital which is sneeking up on me rapidly, (like next week)[:@]
That depends on your financial situation. If you can afford it, get it. It will give you something to look forward to when you get out of the hospital.
I'm afraid if I don't jump on this thing quickly, someone else is going to notice that YS 110 hanging off of the front of it & snatch it up out from underneath me!![&:]
Your honest opinions, be it good or bad would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
1. for the first couple of flights I strongly suggest buddy boxing with someone experienced with warbirds.
2. YS engines are very good engines (much more powerful than other makes in a given size), HOWEVER (from various threads I have read ), they are a much higher maintenance engine than other 4 strokes and can be difficult at times to get fine tuned.
Bottom line - If your finances allow, get it. You can always sell the engine at a later date if you decide you don't like it.
07-11-2006 | 10:36 AM
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I think you should buy it providing you have the finances for it and the wifes approval.
Reasons:
1. It won't be that hard of a plane to fly and you should be able to get the orig owner to help you get it into the air (buddy box or pass the box) for a few flights as needed.
2. It is a great price.
3. It'll motivate you to come through the surgery better in a quicker manner. Something to tinker on during recovery too.
4. I'm jealous.
Of the plane, not the surgery.
5. The deal will not last long.
Reasons:
1. It won't be that hard of a plane to fly and you should be able to get the orig owner to help you get it into the air (buddy box or pass the box) for a few flights as needed.
2. It is a great price.
3. It'll motivate you to come through the surgery better in a quicker manner. Something to tinker on during recovery too.
4. I'm jealous.
Of the plane, not the surgery.5. The deal will not last long.
07-11-2006 | 10:40 AM
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Hi Mark!
Something you wrote might help answer one of your questions. Your buddy Charlie is someone that is actually there with you at the field, sees you fly, ad knows you personally. As much help as these forums are, we can not know whether you are ready for the Pony any better than Charlie can. So I say, if Charlie thinks you're ready, he knows a lot better than we ever will! So go for it! Of course, the standard reccomendations of the buddy box for the first few flights apply here, but'I'm sure you knew that already.
Four hundred $'s for this set-up is an excellent deal!! I dont personally own any YS's, but from what I've gathered, not only is the 1.10 a powerhouse and a great match for these .60 sized warbirds, it is also relatively heard to find. A brand new YS 1.10 alone would cost around as much as what you are getting! Not to mention the high-torque Hitec's, you have a deal of a lifetime before you.
Therefore, I would say YES go ahead and buy it now before the hospital. You are probably correct in worrying that someone else will get this hands on this deal if you wait. I'm sure you wont regret it! The $400 will hurt the wallet a bit at first, but it will be quickly forgotten. I've also been faced with similar situations, but I've never regretted buying anything that I was offered good deals on, even if it was buying slightly on impulse.
Let us know how it goes!
Something you wrote might help answer one of your questions. Your buddy Charlie is someone that is actually there with you at the field, sees you fly, ad knows you personally. As much help as these forums are, we can not know whether you are ready for the Pony any better than Charlie can. So I say, if Charlie thinks you're ready, he knows a lot better than we ever will! So go for it! Of course, the standard reccomendations of the buddy box for the first few flights apply here, but'I'm sure you knew that already.
Four hundred $'s for this set-up is an excellent deal!! I dont personally own any YS's, but from what I've gathered, not only is the 1.10 a powerhouse and a great match for these .60 sized warbirds, it is also relatively heard to find. A brand new YS 1.10 alone would cost around as much as what you are getting! Not to mention the high-torque Hitec's, you have a deal of a lifetime before you.
Therefore, I would say YES go ahead and buy it now before the hospital. You are probably correct in worrying that someone else will get this hands on this deal if you wait. I'm sure you wont regret it! The $400 will hurt the wallet a bit at first, but it will be quickly forgotten. I've also been faced with similar situations, but I've never regretted buying anything that I was offered good deals on, even if it was buying slightly on impulse.
Let us know how it goes!
07-11-2006 | 01:45 PM
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If it were me, I'd jump on that deal... BUT
Then I would take that YS110 out of there - it's WAY more than that plane needs
Ditto on the servos
Throw an OS 91 or a Saito 100 in it and some standard servos and have a ball with it. Even though it's a warbird, it is not a SCALE warbird, so it is much more forgiving. That said, it IS an advanced plane, so anyone beyond an intermediate trainer could easily fly one.
Still, it's always good to have help the first time
Then I would take that YS110 out of there - it's WAY more than that plane needs
Ditto on the servos
Throw an OS 91 or a Saito 100 in it and some standard servos and have a ball with it. Even though it's a warbird, it is not a SCALE warbird, so it is much more forgiving. That said, it IS an advanced plane, so anyone beyond an intermediate trainer could easily fly one.
Still, it's always good to have help the first time
07-11-2006 | 01:59 PM
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RE: Bitten by the Warbird bug!!
Even as inexperienced as I am I think you are ready based on your past posts and research on that plane and others.
Sounds like one heck of a great deal to me.
I have heard that the stock landing gear wires are somewhat weak. I have the AT-6 .60 and I replaced the stock wires with 3/16" Robarts for a small cost.
Best of luck with your Warbird
Sounds like one heck of a great deal to me.
I have heard that the stock landing gear wires are somewhat weak. I have the AT-6 .60 and I replaced the stock wires with 3/16" Robarts for a small cost.
Best of luck with your Warbird
07-11-2006 | 02:00 PM
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My thought is if YOU don't think you're ready, buy it and hang it from the ceiling, as is. After you get out of the hospital and get at least partially back up to normal, take it to the field and buddy box it with the guy you're buying it from WHEN YOU THINK YOU'RE READY. If I had the cash, I might even ask who to contact on this one
07-11-2006 | 02:22 PM
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i'd buy it and sell the engine,get a lump of money back on that and get an easy to tune,less maintenance dependant,less finicky 4-stroke to put in it instead.
07-11-2006 | 02:28 PM
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Oh there is no question that if I get my hands on this one, I won't be maidening it myself as I have my other planes. I will have Charlie fly & trim it for me then give it a go with the buddy chord. Charlie's our resident Warbird Guru so I will definitely have him get me started with it. Thanks for all the good advice.
P.S. Just got 200 unexpected dollars in the mail, so I'm half way there!
P.S. Just got 200 unexpected dollars in the mail, so I'm half way there!
07-11-2006 | 04:23 PM
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Mark,
Yes, the YS 110 is WAY too much engine for that plane. So buy the plane and send me the engine!!!!
One thing I learned a long time ago in this hobby, follow your heart!!! If you see a plane that you like the looks of buy it. If you're not ready it can hang from the ceiling where you can look at it until you're ready to fly it. Mine would be a P-38!!!!! Go for it, get the plane
Ken
Yes, the YS 110 is WAY too much engine for that plane. So buy the plane and send me the engine!!!!
One thing I learned a long time ago in this hobby, follow your heart!!! If you see a plane that you like the looks of buy it. If you're not ready it can hang from the ceiling where you can look at it until you're ready to fly it. Mine would be a P-38!!!!! Go for it, get the plane
Ken
07-11-2006 | 07:48 PM
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Grump,
I'll help you out with all of these vultures. You can have the plane. I am pretty sure from your posts that you can CERTAINLY fly the plane without help of any kind. I will take that engine off your hands and keep it safe from the vultures for the time-being. You can have my Saito .82 as collateral.
I can't believe these guys would try to take advantage like this...SAVAGES.
Just send it to me, (engine only), and I'll take care of it for you.
Later Mark,
Mark
I'll help you out with all of these vultures. You can have the plane. I am pretty sure from your posts that you can CERTAINLY fly the plane without help of any kind. I will take that engine off your hands and keep it safe from the vultures for the time-being. You can have my Saito .82 as collateral.
I can't believe these guys would try to take advantage like this...SAVAGES.
Just send it to me, (engine only), and I'll take care of it for you.
Later Mark,
Mark
07-11-2006 | 07:54 PM
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Grump,
I'll help you out with all of these vultures. You can have the plane. I am pretty sure from your posts that you can CERTAINLY fly the plane without help of any kind. I will take that engine off your hands and keep it safe from the vultures for the time-being. You can have my Saito .82 as collateral.
I can't believe these guys would try to take advantage like this...SAVAGES.
Just send it to me, (engine only), and I'll take care of it for you.
Later Mark,
Mark
Grump,
I'll help you out with all of these vultures. You can have the plane. I am pretty sure from your posts that you can CERTAINLY fly the plane without help of any kind. I will take that engine off your hands and keep it safe from the vultures for the time-being. You can have my Saito .82 as collateral.
I can't believe these guys would try to take advantage like this...SAVAGES.
Just send it to me, (engine only), and I'll take care of it for you.
Later Mark,
Mark
With friends like this...........
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07-11-2006 | 09:38 PM
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thats a great price for that plane like the crowd has been saying get it and sit on it until you feel ready you know that plane is going to be whispering to you in your hospital room "fly me grumpy fly me" if that ain't motivation I don't know what is. good luck with the surgery. watch out for that war bird bug once you get it its imposable to kick.
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Mark, turn off the computer, grab the wallet, and go out and buy it NOW before Ken gets on the phone. As for the YS, well you always have control of the throttle, it doesn't have to be full bore all the time. You have the deal of a lifetime in your own area, so go for it. Then you will be assured it will be in your possession for when you have recuperated. Yes, having been a distant friend of yours for some time now, i feel you are ready for the upgrade to warbirds. So don't proscrastinate any longer, go get it.
And remember , my prayers are with you next week for a speedy recovery.
Bill
And remember , my prayers are with you next week for a speedy recovery.
Bill
07-11-2006 | 10:35 PM
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Don't listen to these guys! Buy the plane, part it out and get a stick! Now on the humorus side, jump on that deal, leave it as is and hang it on the ceiling until you are ready for it. I would leave the engine because thats me, Mr Overpower everything I have. The plane can handle it but it will be a handful. Make sure that this nice combo is not the first warbird you fly because they are different. If you get a chance to buy some "piece" that is flyable for $20, jump on that too and get the feel of it.
Now on the humorus side, jump on that deal, leave it as is and hang it on the ceiling until you are ready for it. I would leave the engine because thats me, Mr Overpower everything I have. The plane can handle it but it will be a handful. Make sure that this nice combo is not the first warbird you fly because they are different. If you get a chance to buy some "piece" that is flyable for $20, jump on that too and get the feel of it.
07-12-2006 | 01:38 AM
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If it were me, I'd jump on that deal... BUT
Then I would take that YS110 out of there - it's WAY more than that plane needs
If it were me, I'd jump on that deal... BUT
Then I would take that YS110 out of there - it's WAY more than that plane needs
Agreed that it doesn't NEED that much engine, but then again I do have pretty good throttle management & I do subscribe to the Tim Allen school of MORE POWER!!! I also thought the servos were over kill but what the heck, they're already there & will come in handy down the road for a big Cap that may need them. At which time I can swap them out with some standards that I have.
Personally I think the YS engine is what makes it such a great deal since the engine alone costs about $325!
I do think I can handle the plane without too much stress involved I have a little stick-time in on a P-47, & another Mustang, so I'm sure I could get comfortable with this bird in a fairly short time. I will still have Charlie help me with it the first time out though just to be on the safe side.
Now I just have to do a little horse-trading or selling to swing it. Marie isn't too keen on the idea just yet until all the medical bills get taken care of. But anything I can come up with from trading or selling planes I already have is fair game!![sm=idea.gif]
07-12-2006 | 06:58 AM
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don't worry about the ys. The ys is only more involved in dificulty when first adjusting for initial flying conditions. If it has already been dialed in then the most you should have to do is just adjust the high speed needle to slightly rich before flying it.
07-12-2006 | 07:24 AM
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Mark, turn off the computer, grab the wallet, and go out and buy it NOW before Ken gets on the phone. As for the YS, well you always have control of the throttle, it doesn't have to be full bore all the time. You have the deal of a lifetime in your own area, so go for it. Then you will be assured it will be in your possession for when you have recuperated. Yes, having been a distant friend of yours for some time now, i feel you are ready for the upgrade to warbirds. So don't proscrastinate any longer, go get it.
And remember , my prayers are with you next week for a speedy recovery.
Bill
Mark, turn off the computer, grab the wallet, and go out and buy it NOW before Ken gets on the phone. As for the YS, well you always have control of the throttle, it doesn't have to be full bore all the time. You have the deal of a lifetime in your own area, so go for it. Then you will be assured it will be in your possession for when you have recuperated. Yes, having been a distant friend of yours for some time now, i feel you are ready for the upgrade to warbirds. So don't proscrastinate any longer, go get it.
And remember , my prayers are with you next week for a speedy recovery.
Bill
Oh, I see now, an Aussie. Never mind.
07-12-2006 | 07:50 AM
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What do you mean "it doesn't have to be full bore all the time"? Of course it does, except for landing. That's why it's there. Who the heck taught you how to fly, some old lady? Oh, I see now, an Aussie. Never mind.
ORIGINAL: the_madgenius
Mark, turn off the computer, grab the wallet, and go out and buy it NOW before Ken gets on the phone. As for the YS, well you always have control of the throttle, it doesn't have to be full bore all the time. You have the deal of a lifetime in your own area, so go for it. Then you will be assured it will be in your possession for when you have recuperated. Yes, having been a distant friend of yours for some time now, i feel you are ready for the upgrade to warbirds. So don't proscrastinate any longer, go get it.
And remember , my prayers are with you next week for a speedy recovery.
Bill
Mark, turn off the computer, grab the wallet, and go out and buy it NOW before Ken gets on the phone. As for the YS, well you always have control of the throttle, it doesn't have to be full bore all the time. You have the deal of a lifetime in your own area, so go for it. Then you will be assured it will be in your possession for when you have recuperated. Yes, having been a distant friend of yours for some time now, i feel you are ready for the upgrade to warbirds. So don't proscrastinate any longer, go get it.
And remember , my prayers are with you next week for a speedy recovery.
Bill
Oh, I see now, an Aussie. Never mind.
Ken
07-12-2006 | 08:25 AM
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From: yeppoon,
AB, AUSTRALIA
RE: Bitten by the Warbird bug!!
now now bruce, don't be nasty. But it seems like i am out-numbered and everyone flys at full throttle except me. Is that why my engines seem to last forever?
Bill
Bill
