doubledee

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I'm not familiar with the planes, but it seems you've pretty much decided on which one you want, so, go for it.

I am familiar with the engines. Magnum engines are nothing but a clone of OS but not the same quality. Choose the OS engine and you will be better off. Although they are more expensive, in my opinion they are a better and longer lasting engine. Be sure and get some help when tuning and breaking it in.
Good luck and enjoy!!!

Regards,
doubledee

elenasgrumpy

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Like bruce, I am fond of my OS engines & have not had any personal experience with Magnum. In the 46 class of engines the OS.46AX is hard to beat. It is however the most expensive of the three you listed, & I'm sure that any one of the three would supply more than ample power for a 40 size Trainer.

bruce88123

Of the 3 engines, I prefer the AX and it will power many later airplanes well also. It's going to be the most expensive also so your budget may take a part in this too.

mouthpiec

what is the difference between AX and LA?

RCKen

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mouthpiec,
I've flown OS engines for 10 years and that's all I buy (with the exception of gas motors). But I recently did a review of the Magnum 46 XLS you are considering. I only have about 20 flights on the motor so far, so I can't give long usage stats on it. But as far as the way the motor runs, it's screams. It's a really good running motor that starts very easily. On the downside there were two things that were frustrating. First is the muffler, no matter how tight I got the bolt holding the muffler halves together the back half of the muffler would "shift" position. To fix the problem I finally had to put blue locktite on the joint between the two muffler halves. So far it seems to be holding. The other problem was the carburetor screw. As I was tightening the carb screw the thread on the hole pulled loose. I had to retap to a bigger screw size to fix it. both problems were easily fixed, but they were an annoyance though. But aside from that the motor is a good running motor. I'll definitely keep it around in my hanger.

If I had to choose between the two motors I would still buy the OS, but that's because I don't have enough long usage data on the Magnum to make that decision yet.

Hope this helps

Ken

bruce88123

AX is a stronger and more powerful engine. AX is also a ball bearing engine and LA series engines have "plain bushings". They seem to run fine but not as well, more of an "entry level" motor IMO, designed to keep production cost down. AX also has a better carburator.

mouthpiec

thanks RcKen!

What do you thing on the Thunder Tiger Trainer?
http://61.221.10.43/english/product.htm
http://www.rcaircraftmodels.co.uk/801_1_16362.html

mouthpiec

what do you mean by this part?

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They seem to run fine but not as well, more of an "entry level" motor IMO, designed to keep production cost down. AX also has a better carburator.

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RCKen

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I've never had the chance to personally fly one. But I do know that Thunder Tiger planes are pretty good quality. And it looks like it's pretty much like most of the other trainers out there these days. You should do just fine with it.

Ken

bruce88123

They seem to run fine but not as well, more of an "entry level" motor IMO, designed to keep production cost down. AX also has a better carburator.

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I'm not sure which part you are questioning.
Runs fine - yes it (the LA) does run quite well
not as well - not as strong as the AX
"entry level" - used on beginners airplanes, not usually used on planes belonging to more experienced flyers. They want the extra power.
Designed to keep costs down - bushed motors cost less to make. cheaper for people to buy.
AX carb better - it is, LA uses air bleed type carb which is more difficult to set propely IMO

Have I explained ?

mouthpiec

Yes sir
Loud and clear!

bruce88123

Great We aim to please.

mouthpiec

i know mate!
i have known a person that has a thunder tiger trainer that he learned on, and now he is not using it anymore.
This evening i will go to see its condition and if it will be good i will buy it for half the price they are sold locally
i.e. locally they are being sold for $120 and i will buy it for $60.

What should i look for to make sure that it is in a good condition?

RCKen

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They seem to run fine but not as well, more of an "entry level" motor IMO, designed to keep production cost down. AX also has a better carburator.

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Well, for one thing the low speed setting is different. On the AX they use a needle valve for the low speed setting, and on the LA they us an air bleed screw. If anybody has ever tried to set the low end with an air bleed setup they know exactly what I mean. It's a very inexact method of doing it and it can take a lot of patience. I have exactly one engine that had an air bleed on it, and I won't ever have another one. They are very frustrating!!.

Ken

donhef

Mouthpiec,

Where will you be flying? I know there is an area over by the Glass Artists compound at Ta Qali' that has an old runway that is cordoned off from the rest of the road. I was in Malta on holiday 2 years ago visiting friends in Mellieha (his house is at the bottom of the hill after the roundabout going towards the Gozo Ferry) and I asked him about a local R/C flying club. He wasn't sure how to contact them so I let the subject drop (better things to do!). Also, I couldn't find a hobby shop for the life of me! I looked in Valetta, but didn't have any luck. Are you getting your supplies via mail order only?

Don

mouthpiec

any advice please?

bruce88123

You didn't say what might be included so I may list extra things here. General condition - no major damage. Small holes in covering can be repaired with packaging tape. Broken wood is a different matter. Landing gear should be straight and secure. If this includes radios call him right now and have him charge batteries so you can make sure radios work. If it has a motor have him start the motor for you if he will unless you know it is OK. All control surfaces shold be tight so pull on them to make sure hinges don't pull out. Remember some of this may be easy to repair but may allow you to bargain on the price. Wing attachment dowels intact. No signs of fuel soaking into the wood around the motor and fuel tank.
Remember it's been used as a trainer so it's seen combat. It won't be perfect.

mouthpiec

i am very happy that you visited this little island!
there are about 3-4 shops here (but not in Valletta)

There is a club at Ta Qali and another on at Hal Far, both where used as runways in World War II
I will be going in the one at Hal Far


Ta Qali Airfield;
http://www.geocities.com/mmafa/
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...06051&t=k&om=1
(the grey area)


Hal Far Airfield
http://www.halfarmodelflying.com/
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...34418&t=k&om=1
(it is not clear here but the airfiled is located at the northern part of the old airfield)

mouthpiec

thanks for the advice bruce!

i will buy only the model, hence without radio and engine

i will take a look at the wooden parts, wheels and flaps and leaked fuel as you corretly suggested!

mouthpiec

By the Way .... if someone will come on holiday to Malta, i advice it, everyone says it is fun here!
and feel free to contact me for a free tour!

we have a history as old as 7000 years! (far older than stonehenge)
and if you realy like aviation we have a couple of museums!
on the left you can see me in the spitfire that is on show at the Aviation Museum
http://www.maltaaviationmuseum.com/

http://www.visitmalta.com/

(this was a free advertisment of my country!)

donhef

"By the Way .... if someone will come on holiday to Malta, i advice it, everyone says it is fun here!"


I can attest to that! The only thing I didn't like was the mosquitos (the insects that is!) that came out at night and attacked my wife and I in our room at his home. No air conditioning and it was in the high 80's in October! The bug spray there didn't work at all!

I went to the air museum close to Ta Qali and saw them rebuilding one of the Hurricanes that was found by divers off the coast. The restoration was going very well at the time, they were starting on the wing rebuilding, with the fuselage almost complete. The Spitfire that was there looked great and I got several pictures of it along with the other displays. I wasn't able to go and see "Faith" in Valetta though. That will probably be my first attempt at a scale R/C build, since I love biplanes.

Good Luck!

Cheers!
Don

mouthpiec

yes heat is a drawback especially in summer!
The spitfire now is ready and the only thing that remains of the hurricane is the wings
if you wish some photos just leave your email address and i will send them to you (i took them 4 months ago)
and i have some of the biplane also

if you like there is a book called "Fortress Malta" which i liked alot, and if you liked malta i suggest you to read it!

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finally i bough the trainer i needed
here is a pic

bruce88123

Looks to be in good condition. Probably needs a motor though.

mouthpiec

it is a special edition transperent motor!

i will buy it tomorrow or during the weekend

RCKen

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I thought it was one of those new fangled "air" motors!!!!!!

ken