mouthpiec

Hi all,
I am intended to buy a fuel powered aircraft.
Any suggestions what should i buy as a craft?
I already have some experience with a 4-channel foamie electric plane (cessna), but i do not know if i should buy the easiest to fly trainer!
Is there any intermediate trainer that is a little acrobatic? (i will be with an instructor)

thanks

KidVermin

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http://www.towerhobbies.com/listings/cat-cat-a.html

I prefer to help students with the Hobbico Avistar; a little more aerobatic with the semi-symmetrical wing as opposed to the flat bottom of other trainers. I don't know the wind conditions on Malta, but the Avistar has much better wind handling traits than the flat bottoms.

Buck Rogers

great planes pt-40 was my first plane and is verry easy to fly.i would recomend this plane to enyone new to model aircraft.

Safebet

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Hi Mouthpiec:

Welcome to RC glow. Be careful, something in the fuel (smell of burnt fuel, exposure to fuel, etc. ) must be very addictive.
It is catching so don't expose yourself to other enthusiasts more than necessary.

Seriously, you mentioned that you would have an instructor help you with your first plane. Talk to him, and see what his experience and preferences
are. You are probably not the first student. On this forum (which is wonderful) you will get opinions form A to Z. Everybody, for the most part
prefers the one he or she learned on. There are many, and I mean many, excellent trainers on the market.

Visit your local club, talk to the members, they will help you.

doubledee

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Hangar 9 Arrow. It has a symmetrical wing and will perform aerobatics. It comes ready to fly.
Get your instructor to help you set up on glow fuel, starter, glow driver, etc. Enjoy!
Regards,
doubledee

gjeffers

i agree with doubledee, the H9 Arrow is a 2nd step trainer with a semi symmetrical wing, it was my second plane and is capible of mid range aerobatics with full throws, great plane!!
and you can fet it in a RTF!

good luck!

MinnFlyer

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Welcome! I also agree that as long as you have some experience with foamys, AND you have an instructor, you should start with an intermediate trainer.

The Hangar-9 Arrow, would be a good choice, but there are many others also

mouthpiec

Do you know something about the Irvine Tutor 40? and on the Magnum XLS-46 BB ABC engine.
What does ABC stands for?

elenasgrumpy

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ABC construction means: Aluminum piston, Brass sleeve, Chrome plated.

mouthpiec

that means good quality?

MNFLYER

I personally think any plane with a semi symmetrical airfoil would be just fone, like listed above, the avistar, which I have, and a arrow, what I taught someone with.

bruce88123

Usually, depends on the quality of the plating as usual. There have been engines in the past with problems with the plating peeling off but none recently that I have heard of.

There is also a similar system called ABN where the N = Nickle plating

doubledee

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The Hangar 9 Arrow comes with an Evolution .46 engine. It an ABC engine that is ready to go. Evolution engines are proving themselves to be of very good quality and extremely easy to tune. There is no break in period or detuning until the engine is run in. Fuel it, glow it, start it, and fly it.
The Hangar 9 Arrow is an excellent airplane for the money and flies very well. It is not only a good airplane to transition from "park flyer" type aircraft to glow aircraft it is also a good airplane to start learning and practicing the fundamentals of aerobatic flight.

Regards,
doubledee

bruce88123

Just to clarify. The RTF comes with an engine and radio, the ARF does not come with an engine or radio. Of courese you could CHOOSE and Evolution engine. Just wanted to make sure mouthpiec knows the difference between RTF and ARF.

mouthpiec

thanks bruce, i knew something but i was not sure! now i am sure!
the problem in malta is that there is no Hangar 9 dealer! [&:]

bruce88123

Now that is something I can NOT help with. []

doubledee

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Hmmmmm, it seems you are limited to whichever trainer is available in Malta. It may be easier to answer your questions if you let us know what is available and we can offer advice on those airplane/engine combinations.
An almost-ready-to fly(ARF) requires some very basic building skills as well as glues and other building supplies. A ready-to-fly(RTF) has everything furnished. Take it out of the box, screw a few things together and the airplane is ready to go. Of course you will still need the glow driver, fuel, starter and the other accessories required by any glow engine.

Again, talk to the people at the nearest RC club, I'll bet they will be more than willing to help you out. Your initial post indicated you will be with an instructor, talk to him, he can give you good advice on which airplane to get and how to get it ready for flight.

Regards,
doubledee

mouthpiec

the available models are;

Boomerang 40
Ripmax 40
Nova 40
Irvine Tutor

there are some other models here > http://www.supertronic.net/Airplanes.htm

thanks as always from the help

elenasgrumpy

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From the link you put up I'm not quite sure if it is the Ripmax or the Irvine that I am looking at, but the blue Trainer in the pic looks fine. Anything along that line of Highwing Trainer should do you just fine.IMO

the_madgenius

mouthpiec, i can only comment on one of the models you mentioned available in your local hobbyshop, and that is the Boomerang 40.
We have a student learning to fly one in our club right now, and i found it to be an excellent trainer aircraft, handles well in slow flight, and still is capable of turning in a bit of speed when powered with a 46size motor. Landing is a breeze, slow and steady, and will handle winds up to 20mph with ease. Other people may be able to comment on the other models in your list. Hope you have lots of enjoyment in this wonderful hobby.
Bill

bruce88123

http://www.irvineltd.com/products/ai...neTutor40.html
http://www.sussex-model-centre.co.uk...xd.asp?id=1766
http://www.ripmax.com/ProductFrames/A-ARTF6504.html
http://www.ripmax.com/item.asp?itemi...tegory=010-010

These are links to the various planes listed. Unfortunately I am not familiar with any of them. I don't believe they are common in the U.S.

piper_chuck

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I have no personal experience with any of them, but I recall reading good comments about the Irvine Tutor from some people in Europe.

mouthpiec

thanks for the help.
in fact i am going to decide between the Irvine Tutor and the Boomerang.

And i have also to choose from an OS engine and a Magnum engine.

what do you think?

bruce88123

Which specific engines? I have had great OS engines but have not tried Magnum's. I prefer ball bearing motors myself but they are more expensive.

mouthpiec

OS 46AX or 46LA
Magnum XLS-46 BB ABC