Hello forum
Can I learn to fly on a bigger size plane like the ARF P-51D 60 it has a 67" wing span. I have some experience flying the alpha 40 trainer a few years ago. Will this be ok to learn on? Thanks

If you have a great instructor, sure.

For the most part, it would not be advisable.

Can you? yes

Will you? I have money says no.

Do the big Ultra Stick, you can learn on that plane easy. Others will dissagree, I say they are wrong. Once you make that Ultra Stick ROCK, you can take 100% of the gear, including the motor and drop it in that H9 Stang.

Thanks. What would be a big difference other than the wing position between a trainer and mustang? Would the mustang be extremely more difficult to control? What would be a concern for a newbie flying the p51 mustang? Thanks

No, in fact it will fly smoother then a stick, however it must fly faster and you will have to use the throttle to land it. With your basic high wing trainer, you can cut the power, head it into the wind and just work the elevator and land. With that Mustang, you just work the elevator and that thing will SNAP on you.

You will swear, it was a radio hit. Let's see who "gets" that one.

Thanks! What size or brand engine, radio (how many channels) should be installed in a 60 size mustang (67" wingspand) with retracks?

if you try and learn on this airplane you wont have it long.
a trainer is a forgiving airplane it will allow you to make mistakes. The Mustang isn't. In other words if you put the trainer in an unusual attitude it will correct itself, assuming you have the altitude. The Mustang will stay in that attitude right up to the crash site, accelerated by the unusual attitude. Not to mention the tip stall. I know what you're thinking, I love Mustangs too. Learn to walk before you run. There are 60 size trainers oh by the way a Sig LT-40 wing span is 70 in.
Good Luck

If you have your heart set on a mustang go with the H9 PTS, You can learn to fly on it ( my 9 yr old son did) Then when you get that mastered start working your way up to the bigger one. Just remember train with a good instructor.


There's more ways to skin a cat than stickin' his head in a boot jack and jerkin' on his tail.

As others have said above, this isn't a plane to learn on. If you have an instructor it's a pretty good bet he's going to tell you to get a trainer to learn on and not instruct on this. If you don't have an instructor, bring along some bags to take the plane home in. This may sound a bit harsh, but it's reality. This plane isn't something to learn on, even if you did learn 10 years ago. Flying is a perishable skill, meaning that if you don't use it you lose it. And being that you only flew a 40 size trainer before you probably didn't get to the skill level needed for a hot plane like this.

Hope this helps

Ken

thats very true and well said

find yourself a good trainer and brush up your skills/get some more lessons until you are confident, then possibly try a .40 sport plane or mid-wing before a big 'Stang

I have decided to do a little research on the Hanger p51 trainer. It seems to be more for newbies!!!!!! Anyone have experience with this bird? I called my local hobby shop Hobbytown USA and they have it for $399 is this the best price? Thanks

If you have your heart set on a mustang go with the H9 PTS, You can learn to fly on it ( my 9 yr old son did) Then when you get that mastered start working your way up to the bigger one. Just remember train with a good instructor.

This was in my earlier post, It is a Excellent trainer as long as you have a Instructor to help you. Then when you get it down you can take off the trainer stuff & it is a nice sport flying plane. You will like it.

$399 is the going price for a new one. You might pick one up a little cheaper in the RCU Buy & Sell.


There's more ways to skin a cat than stickin' his head in a boot jack and jerkin' on his tail.

Here is my son with his.

Re: "I have decided to do a little research on the Hanger p51 trainer. It seems to be more for newbies!!!!!!" < Yes and no! The plane has extra gizmos that you can install on the wing to give the plane more lift, make the plane more stable, and allow it to fly and land slower. The idea is that once you are used to seeing th plane in the air and can safely handle the plane and land it with the extras on, then you start to take the parts off such as the speed brakes. The plane will now start to fly like a sport plane meaning it will take off faster, fly faster, be more sensitive to aileron control and land faster. When all the training gizmos are taken off the plane, now you have a low wing sport scale P51 that you can have fun with without having to buy another plane! I like the bird from what I have seen of it at our field. It does indeed take off, fly, and land slow with the training gear on. It has pretty good visibity and its a larger than other 40 size P51s which also make it easier to see.

I have to dissagree on the H9 P-51 PTS.
I have flown 5 high wing trainers and even another sport low wing. I got 16 flights on my P-51 and visibility is what got me in the end.
The airplane is predominately grey and is somewhat hard to see. At any distance it is almost impossible to quickly judge orientation.
I do not think the Hangar 9 P-51 PTS is a good trainer.

This Place montourhobbies.com has it listed for $379.99/W free shipping. We have over 60 flights on ours & still going strong. The last 20 or so were done SOLO by my 9 yr old son. I will say if you get it in some gray clouds it get's hard to see. But I stress again use a good Instructor.


If you find yourself in a hole the first thing to do is stop diggin'

Sure, go for it.

HUH? Try this only if you want to buy your second plane one week after your first.

The mustang P-51 PTS is a great plane, but it is not an excelent trainer. My sugestion is start with a simulator then move to a high wing trainer then try the P-51 PTS. The reason I like my PTS is because the ARF is cheap 120~130$ w/o engine and radio and it is a great flying sport plane. Even though you have previous experience, if its been a few years start with something simple. I am still some what new to this myself and started with a Nexstar then moved to the PTS it was alot more to handle, and I had alot of time on the sim. I'm not saying that you couldn't learn on a PTS or the larger 60 size Mustang but it would take alot longer, and if you're like most of us, the more money in the air the higher the pucker factor which sucks when you're trying to learn to fly.
Good luck, and let us know what plane you go with.

Don't do the PTS Mustang.
A friend of mine had one and we, I found the aircraft a hand full. Scared him so bad on a moderately windy day that he couldn't land it.
The landing gear is weak, the aircraft is sensitive in pitch.
Besides if your a scale guy this airplane isn't it.

The Nexstar is a OK plane if you disconnect the self leveling feature (To many get to relying on it and do not learn to fly) so yes a regular plane is hard to fly. As far as hard to handle in the wind, all of your high wing trainers (my experience) are way harder to land in the wind. The PTS is a very good plane. Just do what ever feel's right to you & enjoy it . Just remember use a good Instructor.

Always drink upstream from the herd.

Guys!! Do you think A Flair Puppeteer would be a good trainer?? Thats whats bothering me for a long time..
Thanks Patryk.

Exactly where I am coming from. I have given up on the cart before the horse theory, If they want to start off on a P-51, let em.

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Exactly where I am coming from. I have given up on the cart before the horse theory, If they want to start off on a P-51, let em.

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Ok I didn't know where you were coming from, I understand now.

Hello, I just wanted to say I learned to fly with Hangar 9 P51 PTS and I had previous exsperience flying RC years back. I hadn't flown a plane in several years and even flying the PTS take practise. If you haven't flown in quite some time get a instructor or someone who knows how to fly before you try to just fly... I was able to land the PTS my first time but I hit hard and broke the wing hold nylon bolts off and jared the fusalage pretty good. Although the plane was intact I just had to hit the local Ace hardware store for new wing bolts, I had a freind with a lot of stick time fly it with me until I got the feel and grove back. If you go out and buy a mustang of any kind, even the parkzone P51 electric I can almost guarantee it will be wrecked and that takes some of the fun out of the sport until you get to a point with an instructor where you can fly by yourself also it saves you lots of money and time. Anyway the best way to get into RC flying is to build a plane or buy a RTF and fly with an instructor with the buddy box system. Your first plane that you crash trying to learn the sport by yourself will take some of the fun out of it. Good luck and happy landings...