I have been flying a Tower trainer 40 with some success until it was demolished. As a new pilot without an instructor, I do find myself doing stupid things. However, to move on, I would like to get another high winger to continue my learning curve. I feel that a semi symetrical airfoil wing would be a better move for me. I would be able to handle it. Something with a lighter wing loading would foot the bill. I keep being drawn to World Models Worldstar. It seems to be about right, and the price is attractive. However, I cannot seem to find much feedback on this plane. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Also, have I overlooked another product that you could recommend?

I have a Worldstar still in the box ! It's turn just hadn't come up yet. I keep looking in the box drooling ! LOL !
Anyway, I got it for "Just Relaxed" flying... I love to do " Touch & Go's and the flaps feature was just a bonus. And it's nice and BIG !
What I was gonna suggest was that if you are still in the learning phase of this "Hobby". Might I suggest flying as cheaply as you can... Cheap , plane, cheap, engine and servos. You will crash while learning so the "Bite" won't be so bad. ( OK, I know that some of you have never even dinged a prop whilst learning.....) The plane I was gonna suggest was the World Model Sky Raider I High wing Symetrical airfoil, at only
$ 69.00,.A great learning machine ! I flew mine over two years and just wore it out !
Lemme get out of here before I bore ya !
Ugo

Could I suggest that you get a LITTLE help/advise from an instructor even if you don't feel like joining a club?
Try calling:
SCOTTSDALE MODEL FLYERS
DAVID CONRAD
10717 N 103RD WAY
SCOTTSDALE AZ 85260
Phone: 480-451-3280
I'd bet he'd be willing to give you some help/advise and maybe find out some of your problems in a cheaper manner. A call is cheap and easy.
Depending on WHY you crashed, another flat bottom wing may be in order and the Tower 40 ARF is quite inexpensive for you to just move your gear over into.
You said that you had "some success" but that is difficult to interpret.

G'day Mate,
As UGO suggested, the World Models Skyraider Mk1 is an ideal trainer, ,
semi-symetrical wing, not symetrical, we have had 2 of em, the second one is still going strong, there are 4 in our club, there is a thread in the User Review section in RCU.
Powered by a good 46, plenty of power. handle wind very well, compared to some flat bottom wing trainers.

I stand corrected Allen ! Sem-Symetrical is correct ! We have several flying at our field. Our LHS buys them by the 6 pack ! The Sky Raider II (Low Wing) is a natural progression and is a little more sporty ! I had two of these. It's a bomb with a .46. Gee, I sound like World Models spokesman. Really I'm not

Ugo

Now looking at the Sky Raider. Missed it the first time around.But talk about an ugly color scheme..unless it looks better in the flesh. Actually the specs are almost identical to the Worldstar. Price is as you mentioned, thirty dollars less. What are they leaving out, and for the extra bucks...what will I be gaining do you think wih he Worldstar? Both have that semi s wing that will take me a bit farther than the flat wings.

That is the old color scheme ! Here is the new and improved colors ! See attach. ! The advantage is $ 30.00 in your pocket !! Put that towards a new engine or whatever ! The only other feature the Worldstar offers is the addtion of Flaps....Which you don't need whilst learning to fly, and require two more servos ! By the way, you will use all of the hardware in the box. The quality is that good !
Ugo

I did not mention at the first post that I will do an electric conversion of what plane I get. Did that on the Tower. Have all the stuff for the same weight range, so the 40 size works well. Both Sky Raider and Worldstar are in the right range. Some of the other cheapies range a pound more or so. Now I am flying a Hobby Lobby Liberty Trainer, designed for electric, but somewhat smaller and lighter. You are being very helpful, for which I thank you....But.....that color scheme still looks tacky!!

Forget about the color scheme it's just a cheap trainer to get u trained so u can move on to most sophisticated/expensive planes with pretty color schemes Another option is the Duraplane trainer for US$54.00 from tower and will take a beaten (cloroplast) http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXE586&P=ML good luck.

Edit to correct price

Happy holidays all

When it's in the plastic bag.... The color won't matter at all ! LOL !
Happy Flying !
Ugo

If you're going to "move on", I deign to misuse the word 'learn' like this, don't bother with a TWM Worldstar 40. Just buy the cheapest ARF trainers you can find and slap 'em together two at a time. Crashes will cost less, and there'll be less time lost between enforced groundings and continuity of flight 'training'.

But before you do, ponder upon the following two questions.

1. Is it rational thought that makes you believe changing the model to a different type is going to improve your flying?

2. Or taking a more logical approach, what RC flying skills or flight instructional skills do you have which you "feel" qualifies you to make an informed, objective assessment that you can learn to fly RC competently and safely without instructional assistance?

However, presuming that you will persist with your self-'instructional' 'method', do yourself a huge favour. Be just a ltittle bit smart by getting an RC sim and compatible cable you can use with your TX and fly the ar$e off it first. Once you have, here's a trainer you would do well to consider.

TWM Worldstar 40's cheaper but similar sibling the Sky Raider Mach I (40) is arguably the best, and certainly one of the best, flying ARF trainers in the market place today. It is well suited to 90% of potential students. 5% of the remainder do need something bigger, slower and more stable whilst the other 5% shouldn't EVER be let near anything mechanical which moves.

If you will persist without an instructor, the Sky Raider Mach I will probably be ideal for you. It's cheap to buy, goes together very quickly & easily, meets your semi-symmetrical wing requirement, will fly perfectly well on an 40LA *for ab initio training, is visually large enough to operate with safety parameters of height and distance (space ~ > time), handles wind better than most other good trainers, and is a stable flyer.

Finally don't forget to include garbage bags in your flight kit. Good luck!

Thank you all for your considered opinions. The Sky Raider it will be. They show a few different color schemes, and I will make a choice. Just an aside, I have been using a simulator, and it helps a lot. Now I was looking for a not fast..but faster plane than what I am flying now. I do love airplanes. Going to start the build of a Sig Four Star 40 to sit in the closet for a while.