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Old 01-07-2007 | 09:54 AM
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Yesterday , after being solo for more than 2 months, I finally put my first plane in. I have a twist 40. I started it went up trimmed it out, out flew a few laps , landed and took off a few times to get use to it a little. Then w/ a grin on my face I parked it a little and walked a round and talked to everyone. After afew minutes I went over , started her up , put her on the ground. Started down the runnway and took off. I instantly had a funny feeling. It took off straight up in the air w/ barely any elevater. I flew around alittle to line up for landing, when I went to turn she just started twisting like crazy. I lost control, killed the throttle and she went nose first into a patch of trees to a thudding stop. Uh Oh ! , that didn't sound good. Went to the scene and to my suprise the only damage was the horizontal stab. Which does bolt on and is only 26.00 from horizon. Moral of the story. CHECK YOUR ON LOW RATES BEFORE TAKE OFF , DUH!!!
Old 01-07-2007 | 10:38 AM
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OR.....

You could learn to fly on high rates. (Not intended to be rude, just keep flying and you will learn what fun high rates can be). One of my favorite planes has only full 45+ degree throws on all surfaces...it's a blast!!

Go have fun once you have it fixed, and don't be discouraged.
Old 01-07-2007 | 11:21 AM
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Or use exponential, then you don't have to worry. Next lesson in your learning curve: Pre-Flight Inspection

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Old 01-07-2007 | 11:52 AM
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OR.....

You could learn to fly on high rates. (Not intended to be rude, just keep flying and you will learn what fun high rates can be). One of my favorite planes has only full 45+ degree throws on all surfaces...it's a blast!!

Go have fun once you have it fixed, and don't be discouraged.
i am new to this and i have not heard of low and high rates except on my FS ONE flight simulator. what do the rates do? The FS ONE is a great simulator but does not come with a book to explain everything. thanks for any help
Old 01-07-2007 | 11:59 AM
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On low rates, the servos only move the control surfaces a fraction of normal, like 50% of travel. High rates makes everything move at 100% travel.
Old 01-07-2007 | 12:08 PM
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On low rates, the servos only move the control surfaces a fraction of normal, like 50% of travel. High rates makes everything move at 100% travel.

ahhhhhhhhh ok.... so i am guessing you would take off on low rates...switch to high rates to fly around and upon landing switch to low rates again?
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On low rates, the servos only move the control surfaces a fraction of normal, like 50% of travel. High rates makes everything move at 100% travel.

ahhhhhhhhh ok.... so i am guessing you would take off on low rates...switch to high rates to fly around and upon landing switch to low rates again?
That would be one way of doing it. Low rates are also adjustable on most transmitters from 40-100% of "normal" and high rates can also be adjusted in most computer radios. This allows for tremendous flexability of set-up.
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ok thank you very much for the help
Old 01-07-2007 | 01:20 PM
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I set throughs to max and use expo
Old 01-07-2007 | 07:36 PM
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The other possibility, of course, is that you fell below flyable air speed and tip stalled it. From your description I think this may have happened. At landing speeds with this airplane the control surfaces don't have a huge effect like they do with power on. Lots of low time flyers tend to try and "park" their planes rather than land them so you may want to keep a little more airspeed just in case this was the root cause.

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