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Old 03-20-2007 | 08:40 AM
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I am looking to get another bi-plane, but do not know which one will suit me the best. I want something that will land easy, if you can really say that. I want one that will take a 91, or just smaller, four stroke.

I did have a Tiger Moth 60, but I just did not like it for some reason and I think it really was because I had it underpowered. I had a O.S.61 fx two stroke on it. I could fly the Tiger Moth just fine and landing was very easy for me, but it just did not do much else and I really felt it would fly the same as my cub does.

I would like something like my 4* 60, in the way they fly, if their are any bi-planes that can match them. I am not wanting full 3-d or anything, but something easy and fun to fly.
Old 03-20-2007 | 08:52 AM
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I went from a Nexstar to a 4*40 to a Sig Hog Bipe. It runs very well on a 91 four stroke, and I found it to fly much better than my 4*. I'd highly recommend it.
Old 03-20-2007 | 09:52 AM
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IMHO the best bipe out there for general all around flying, and for being an easy bipe to start out on, is the Sig Hog Bipe. I've had 3 Sig Pigs and I love them. They are a lot more forgiving than most other bipes, but still fly like a bipe. They look great. And they are an easy building plane. This plane seems like it was made for a 91 4-stroke engine. You won't be worry here for getting one.

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Old 03-20-2007 | 10:41 AM
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Well I guess I will be going with a Sig Hog Bipe. And if it is as much fun to fly as a 4*, or more, it will be a great plane. Thanks guys.
Old 03-20-2007 | 10:46 AM
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I hope it is, as I am nearing completion on mine. From what I have seen, most people are throwing a saito 100 in there. An OS 91 should pull it along very nicely though.
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I have the OS 91 4-stroke in mine and it's plenty of engine for it. The Saito 100 should be a nice fit as well.

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The picture that I use for my avatar is my current Hog Bipe. Here's a couple of pics of it.

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Old 03-20-2007 | 12:07 PM
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Here's a nice build thread for the Sig Hog Bipe
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_25..._1/key_/tm.htm
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Believe it or not, my GP Super Skybolt ARF can get real slow on landing, and at the same time is very aerobatic and takes a .91 4-strokes very easily.
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Believe it or not, my GP Super Skybolt ARF can get real slow on landing, and at the same time is very aerobatic and takes a .91 4-strokes very easily.
That's true. And now that they have the ARF version it's a real option. Up until they ARF came out the the Skybolt wasn't an option for beginner because it's not the easiest kit to build and shouldn't be something a first time builder should tackle.

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Hey Ken,

I want one of those "if I wanted to Hover..." decals. Where'd you get it?

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Old 03-20-2007 | 01:06 PM
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I've got to cut some for a couple of other guys now too. PM me your address.

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Old 03-20-2007 | 01:22 PM
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Well maybe I will go with the super skybolt since it is in an arf. I have not done a kit yet, but I am trying to find a good to do. I was really thinking of doing the slow poke sport as my first kit, but if the sig hog bipe is a good first kit I will just do it first. What do you guys think?

The reason I am thinking an arf right now is because I work two jobs, and the second job of mine is just getting ready to get going. I own my own lawn care service and it is about time to get started. (I know boo who, but it pays for my rc stuff.) I do have one good reply about the skybolt, what do the rest of you think, go for the skybolt arf now and build a hog bipe also? Or just go with the hog bipe even if it will be my first kit?
Old 03-20-2007 | 03:46 PM
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I`m a builder by nature, but I order this thru Tower $274.98 [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LC1040&P=1]Skybolt[/link] I used a coupon and I cannot build it this cheap. I`m in the middle of 3 builds, one is a GP Ultimate 40 and it is taking me forever to get it done. I`m o.k. with one ARF in my fleet.
As far as building a bipe, the Sig kits are the easiest to build.
Old 03-20-2007 | 04:06 PM
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Well, I am stuck in the middle. I really want to build my own from a kit, but I know it will take me some time to do. The building part does not bother me, but the covering part is where I think I am going to have some problems. At least to make it look as good as evryones else.

Anyway, I am going to build one and then pray I am able to get it in the air and return it to the ground in one piece. Thats what it's all about isn't it.
Old 03-20-2007 | 06:13 PM
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Every time I fly I'm praying it gets up and down in one piece. And the maiden flight on something you worked on for two or three months is the worst..

My maiden on the Hog Bipe was easy as pie though. It flew very easily and predictably.
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Well maybe I will go with the super skybolt since it is in an arf. I have not done a kit yet, but I am trying to find a good to do. I was really thinking of doing the slow poke sport as my first kit, but if the sig hog bipe is a good first kit I will just do it first. What do you guys think?

The reason I am thinking an arf right now is because I work two jobs, and the second job of mine is just getting ready to get going. I own my own lawn care service and it is about time to get started. (I know boo who, but it pays for my rc stuff.) I do have one good reply about the skybolt, what do the rest of you think, go for the skybolt arf now and build a hog bipe also? Or just go with the hog bipe even if it will be my first kit?
TRUST ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The GP Super Skybolt is AMAZING!!
install the OS .91 surpass on it with a topflight 15x6 and you will see...
Old 03-21-2007 | 08:30 AM
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Jeeze Ken,you don't like heli's??? Here I am stayin' away from the pick on ken threads and now I see this!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for all your previous advice and I was wondering could you help me set up my new elec. heli??
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Nice Bipe. I especially like"If I wanted to hover, I'd buy a helicopter!
Old 03-21-2007 | 11:58 AM
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brooke, If you go with a Hog Bipe (and you should), may I suggest building a balsa cowl for it. I think it cleans up the looks from the "stock" front end.

Here's mine with a 91 OS 4-stroke. I need to move the CG back a bit this season to make it more spirited. As it is it will do a constant knife-edge no problem, but I want to be able to get it to flat spin. The 91 four stroke isn't unlimited but it's a great match for the plane. It'll "just" hover at about 95% throttle. It's not meant to be a hovering plane, but that gives you an idea of the power.
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Jeeze Ken,you don't like heli's??
Actually, I have nothing against heli's!! That graphic was just some kidding around between myself and one of the heli guys at our field. We are always ribbing each other about it planes vs. heli's. But in the end we really don't mean it!!! well, mostly!!

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As far as covering goes, I was just as nervous. I didn't do anything fancy with mine but I wouldn't be afraid to try more on my next plane.

This was a scratch built from plans. I'm just learning to fly and not sure when I will maiden it.

Ken, that is a awsome looking bipe. I would love to build one but the trueness of the wings worries me enough not to attempt it yet. Maybe as a third build. Those decals are awsome, please let me know where you got them.

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Old 03-21-2007 | 04:11 PM
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Those decals are awsome, please let me know where you got them.

Del
I do them myself. PM me on this and I'll give you more info

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Ken, why is there fuel tube wrapped around the muffler on your Hog Bipe ?
Or is the picture just misleading ?
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Ken, why is there fuel tube wrapped around the muffler on your Hog Bipe ?
Or is the picture just misleading ?
Nope, that picture isn't misleading. I was having a problem with this engine in this position, the muffler kept coming loose in flight. I tried evertyhing I could think of to get it tight enough, but it always came loose. So I came up with this. I use some steel wire rope to wrap around the muffler to hold it in place. The wire rope is inside of fuel tubing to prevent metal to metal contact. This has worked great. Tons of flights and it never comes loose any more.

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