Balsa, SPAD, and foam- comparison?
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I've built a SPAD already because they're cheap and durable but am curious about other materials. The guys at the field say that balsa is lighter and more precise- looks true by the planes they have. But what about foam? The idea of cutting out a wing in one pass looks good.
Any thoughts on the advantages/disadvantages of the various materials?
Any thoughts on the advantages/disadvantages of the various materials?
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hot wire foam cutting is done it is then often sheeted in thin balsa this si done alot in high speed models as jsut monokote would simply employd..
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From: strathmore,
AB, CANADA
hi im going to start building a plane and im wondering what meterials i should use foam,balsa thats my chouces my dad said
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On sheeted foam wings, it is the balsa skin that gives the wing its strength, the foam only gives the wing its shape. For even higher strength, the wing can be covered with glass cloth and epoxy or some other resin.
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From: FrederickMD
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hi im going to start building a plane and im wondering what meterials i should use foam,balsa thats my chouces my dad said
hi im going to start building a plane and im wondering what meterials i should use foam,balsa thats my chouces my dad said
I just finished a plane of my own design that is a foam core fuselage and foam core wing, with 1/16" balsa sheeting. 68" wing span, 54" fuselage length, final weight about 8 lbs. I could have built lighter, but its quite strong. I like the way it flys, but others might not. I may try building the same design next winter with a balsa stick frame.
Let us know more about your expectations for the final product, and then we can advise on materials.
Brad
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Long ago, I read about someone using foam wings with grocery bag paper glued to the outside as a skin. Either wood glue or epoxy works well. This paper skin considerably adds to the strength and stiffness of the wing.
A few years ago, several of the guys at our flying club were flying a simple flying wing design powered by .40 engines for RC combat. The wing was hot wire cut foam covered with self sticking shelf paper for strength.
A few years ago, several of the guys at our flying club were flying a simple flying wing design powered by .40 engines for RC combat. The wing was hot wire cut foam covered with self sticking shelf paper for strength.
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All I know is the SPAD materials- durable and heavy. I am playing around with the idea of making my next wing out of foam, but am curious if it saves weight and also how it compares to coroplast for strength.
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On sheeted foam wings, it is the balsa skin that gives the wing its strength, the foam only gives the wing its shape. For even higher strength, the wing can be covered with glass cloth and epoxy or some other resin.
On sheeted foam wings, it is the balsa skin that gives the wing its strength, the foam only gives the wing its shape. For even higher strength, the wing can be covered with glass cloth and epoxy or some other resin.
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All I know is the SPAD materials- durable and heavy. I am playing around with the idea of making my next wing out of foam, but am curious if it saves weight and also how it compares to coroplast for strength.
All I know is the SPAD materials- durable and heavy. I am playing around with the idea of making my next wing out of foam, but am curious if it saves weight and also how it compares to coroplast for strength.
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A lot depends on the type of flying you want to do (or are capable of doing).
Coroplast is great if you want to bash your planes around. I think if an all-out nuclear war broke out, only cockroaches and coroplast would survive.
As to foam, there are three types of foam planes, Flat foamies, molded foam fliers, and balsa-covered foam, which is usually reserved for wings only.
Now, that said, Foam wings are heavier than built-up balsa wings, but more resistant to damage.
If your skills are at the point where you are wanting to try a nicer plane than you can build with Coroplast, I would HIGHLY recommend getting a kit. When you build with wood, there are a LOT of things to consider in the design. With a kit, all of the engineering has already been done (Like where to put doublers, and how to strengthen critical areas, etc.)
If you tell us the type of flying you like to do, we can recommend several, well-proven kits.
Coroplast is great if you want to bash your planes around. I think if an all-out nuclear war broke out, only cockroaches and coroplast would survive.
As to foam, there are three types of foam planes, Flat foamies, molded foam fliers, and balsa-covered foam, which is usually reserved for wings only.
Now, that said, Foam wings are heavier than built-up balsa wings, but more resistant to damage.
If your skills are at the point where you are wanting to try a nicer plane than you can build with Coroplast, I would HIGHLY recommend getting a kit. When you build with wood, there are a LOT of things to consider in the design. With a kit, all of the engineering has already been done (Like where to put doublers, and how to strengthen critical areas, etc.)
If you tell us the type of flying you like to do, we can recommend several, well-proven kits.
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I'm so new it's hard to say at this point what my goals are. I'm really just trying to build skill now. I'm flying a SPAD Debonair which is a bit heavy according to the guy whose training me. The logical next step is to go to a flat wing with maybe a thinner profile for more speed and maneuverability, hence the question about foam or balsa building. I'd like to do combat later on and maybe build an aerobat too.
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Try a Sig Something Extra. It's a very easy build, it's easy to fly on low rates, and it's very versitile for learning several different types of flying.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...1p?&I=SIGA6176
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...1p?&I=SIGA6176
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Blue foam covered in brown paper is worth a try. Lighter stronger much cheaper than balsa and much easier to repair. I build wings this way up to 45" with .32 engines.
There is a kit for a 4 engine Lancaster of 8 foot span that blue foam and paper. Flies eally well on 4 x .15 Sc engines.
We fly 12th scale combat and I have wings that are 3 seasons old and still good.
There is a kit for a 4 engine Lancaster of 8 foot span that blue foam and paper. Flies eally well on 4 x .15 Sc engines.
We fly 12th scale combat and I have wings that are 3 seasons old and still good.



