Hello all...first thing is i want to say hello...i am a new RC plane flyer and need some advice on a good beginning Electric plane to start off with...level 1 !!

Should i get a Hobbyzone SUPERCUB
OR
A Hobbyzone FIREBIRD FREEDOM

is ir better to start on a 2 or 3 channel ?

i have flown a few AIRHOGS planes as a start so i cant wait to jump to the next level

any info would be great

DISCUSS

Welcome to RCU Beergut (Great name)

I have flown the Super Cub and I think it's a great way to start. It's a really fun little airplane

I have a Firebird Freedom and I think this is also a great plane. I haven't flown the super cub so I can't compare the two. The Freedom flies great and can handle some light wind. I like to get mine up really high and cut the throttle to just float around. I land in the grass and I found it better to take the langing gear off. Belly landings are smooth but when landing with the wheels on it tended to nose over. I believe they now have a Freedom with ailerons out. I am not sure of the name of the plane but you might want to look at it.

i would suggest the Supercub as it has Elevator control so if you do get into trouble you can pull up and prevent it planting itself, just my 2p

The Freedom has a 'V' tail with elevator support. It is not like some of the other Firebird planes that use the throttle to control altitude. Another thought maybe the reusability of the radio gear. I am not sure how each of these planes are in that catagory. I have not really looked at the inside of the Freedom on a long time so I am not sure if the gear can easily be removed and reused. How does the Supercub look as far as reuse of gear?

HUH? You think the Freedom doesn't have pitch control?
http://www.hobbyzonesports.com/Produ...ProdID=HBZ7000
While it doesn't have an elevator in the strictest form of the word the V-tail accomplishes the same function. Well enough that it was used in full scale A/C as well.

most of the Firebirds ive known are two channel :S

my bad looks like they are both on even playing fields then, although im still not sure about re-usable innards they must both use the same type of guts,

the only other thing i can think of is the Propellor, the firebird has a rear-mounted pusher prop and the design should help save the prop in a *cough cough* "Heavy landing"

Thanx for info...i am a bit worried about the front PROP on the SUPERCUB !
i know i will destroy a few ....
still not sure which of these 2 pick up
or look into another plane

This is the plane I mentioned that was a Freedom with ailerons http://www.hobbyzonesports.com/Produ...ProdID=HBZ7200. It is the Aerobird Swift. It seems like the only difference between the Swift and the Freedom are the ailerons. The Freedom is nice for flying gently around the field but it sure would be nice to have the extra manuverability. As far as the rough landings I can tell you the Freedom stands up to a beating. I brought mine in hard on Friday and no damage was done. My dad wrecked it pretty hard last year and no damage was done. In the course of about a dozen rough landings I have not had anything break. I did however find that the anticrash technology they advertise is more trouble than its worth. I always turn this feature off so that I don't have to fight the plane for control while I am flying. I think that no matter which plane you pick, you will have fun with it. I think that you should go out and buy the one you like the best and get to flying.

You say you're new to flying but it doesn't say if you've any experience at all, I started with the Hobbyzone Swift on boxing day which lasted me all of 6 seconds before I totalled it so definitely not an aileron plane I'd say unless you have an instructor to hand. I then bought the Super Cub but probably as or more importantly a FMS Simulator which probably saved me a fortune and at least got me used to which way it turns etc.
Personally I'd say the Super Cub, I know they're slightly different (one has ailerons the other doesn't) but I did repair the Swift after I was more experienced but I never really liked it, if the Freedom flies like the Swift I'd definitely go for the Super Cub, lovely plane and looks 10 x better in my opinion as well.
The Swift didn't seem to take knocks that well either but the Super Cub has had quite a few as was learning and a few spare parts here and there, that said half of them I've not fitted and still flies fine with a chunk out of the end of main wing, broken cowling, and bent out of shape rudder most of the damage done when I parked it at full speed 60 ft up a tree (thank you to the local tree surgeon who got it down) as I was looking at the trim controls rather than the plane.
I just can't imagine anyone having the Super Cub as a 1st plane and looking back saying I wish I hadn't bough that, yes you'll move onto bigger, better and more responsive but you'll always have an affinity for the one you learn to fly with. As you get to the moving up stage would look at a Multiplex Minimag as a 2nd and an aileron plane unless you have an instructor to help from day one in which case it could be a good 1st plane, you can use it as 3 channel initially install the servo's etc when you build it and then just plug them in and cut the ailerons free when you're ready for it to use the 4 channels.
Hope that's helpful and whichever you go for the best of luck and enjoy it !!!!!!!!
STOP - I missed the bit at the end where you said you'd flown a few Airhogs, if you're really confident with them I'd possibly go straight to the Minimag but get some time in on a simluator 1st - really depends how much you've flown them and how confident you are !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope that hasn't confused you too much and though I'd leave the rest in rather than deleting as if you feel you're not quite ready for an aileron plane the rest becomes applicable again.