I want to get a small electric plane to fly around my house at the local school field. I wouldn't mind a ARF or kit. I would like it to use Li-po batteries. Specifically, ones that would work with http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...60&pid=U867328 that charger, because I already have it. The connectors don't necessarily have to work, because i can solder an adapter.

I just want something fun. I dont want a really easy plane though. Something I can do rolls, flips. I already have a Nitro trainer that i can land consistently, do loops, rolls, fly inverted for the entire field length (I soloed last month). So i don't want a beginner plane that you would recommend someone that is just starting. But, i dont want something that would be too hard, because im still a beginner, but im not a beginner in the sense I have no experience.

As for the field. Its a decent size field. I cant use anything that takes forever to turn, but i think any good electric plane with ailerons will work.

thanks.

One more thing. I dont really want a wood kit, that i have to build. I want to be able to fly over the winter, and not be building instead. I already have a winter building project.

Sounds to me like you're looking for an e-flite Mini Ultra Stik.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCEB3&P=0

Both of those look like great choices. Im gonna look into the specifics a bit further, and see what i want. Any more suggestions are good too.

Are there any RTF's that would fit what im asking? The reason is they usually come with cheaper stuff, and thats kinda what i want. (not too cheap) I priced the Mini Ultra Stick, and it came to be around $400, without a radio. So, i planned for my first radio that i buy separate to be a 7C 2.4ghz. So , it would come to be $750. that's a bit much. If i just got like a cheaper 6 channal JR, then that might be better, and i would have two of them, so i could use one as a trainer box, if i took the crystal out (Is this legal, just to take them out, or to replace them, with another. I dont want to take it out if its not legal, in which case i wouldn't have a buddy box.)

Yep, you'll probably sink close to $400 into a M.U.S. by the time you buy the motor, esc, servos, reciever, and a couple of lipos. The good news is that this plane can do way more than a typical nitro trainer. There isn't much building to do to speak of. It literally bolts together. The only thing you need to glue is the firewall because it comes with two different firewalls, one for outrunner motors and the other for geared inrunners. You can probably fly it the same day you buy it.

I really don't know of any RTFs that I think you would be happy with. These el-cheapo planes usually are so anemic that they will only loop after a dive to build up speed. On the other hand, the M.U.S. with a good brushless motor and lipo will make the typical nitro trainer look anemic by comparison.

well, i was planning on building a new 4* 60 or tiger 60 over the winter to use next summer. However, I think my Alpha 60 will last another summer. Ive only been flying 2 months. So, I can put my funds and build time towards this mini ultra stick and actually flying time. Are you all sure ill be able to handle this as a second plane? I mean I think im ready to move on.

Be careful of going too much too soon, I speak from experience and destroyed a few which has been costly. I was flying a Hobbyzone Super Cub and got bored of it fairly quickly I went to a club and they suggested the Ultrafly PC9 I'd bought was too much and to get a Multiplex Minimag.
I ignored it at at my peril and detroyed the PC9 in seconds after they'd said to put it in the loft for 6 months then I bought the MiniMag. I've flown and flown that which has really taken my air time up and have just gone up to a Multiplex Acromaster but I wonder if that may be a bit too far for you too soon, the one down is the Multiplex Gemini, I haven't flown it but it's meant to be that much easier than the Acromaster and yet probably that much more aerobatic than the Minimag. If you're looking for a foamy then they're hard wearing and easy to build as well. Here's a link to a video clip I found, the one on the Multiplex site doesn't really do it justice http://www.rcmovie.net/view_video.ph...e=&category=mr
I've also put in alink to this store simply vbecause they give a simple scale one to 3 for both building ease and flying ease for each plane http://www.modelspot.com/mpx/mpxkits.htm
I've also tried the RTF route and have had transmitters that glitch to the extent of destroying a plane (Art-Tech Mustang) and again at my expense have realised it's not actually a saving in the long run especially when the dodgy equipment has destroyed the plane and not you !!!!!!
Hope that's of some help and Good luck !!!!!!!

I have seen more than one plane get augered into the ground mostly because the pilot was flying a plane that his skills did not yet match. Steer cleer of scale warbirds and scale aerobatic planes for your second plane. A Tiger, 4-star, or Ugly/Super/Ultra Stik are all excellent next step planes. Constant chord (not tapered) wings won't surprise you with an unexpected snap roll while making a landing approach or during a turn to final.

One fear I have about a Mini Ultra Stick is if I get it during the winter when usually no one is at my field, then i wont have the help either assembling or flying that i might need.

E-Flight offers a Plug n' Play version of the Mini Ultra Stick for around $200 that includes everything you need except battery and receiver with brushless motor, speed controller, and servos already pre-installed. The plane only requires final assembly to get it up in the air.

You might also take a look at Parkzone's new T-28 Trojan RTF. It comes with a brushless power system and LiPo battery with everything you need to fly in one box for $219.99. They have a PnP version of it for $159.99 if you already own a radio.

Good luck and good shopping!

Has anyone used the PNP version of hte mini ultra stick. Are the electronics good? Are they worth the price?

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