ok ok. now for a newbie yous all talk chinese to me. immelmans? Split S? Hammerhead/stall turn? not to sound dumb but what do these maneuvers look like in the air? is there a chart or illustration somewhere?? id like to try these but dont know what or how to do these. i know your basic rolls and loops and half cuban 8's. i know what a knife edge looks like but dont know how to perform it(opposite rudder and aileron simultaneously?) i heard of a blender, harrier, rolling harrier, inverted harrier(maybe?) but have no clue what it would look like. can anybody help??

There are some good descriptions here. [link=http://www.geistware.com/rcmodeling/aerobatics/index.htm]www.geistware.com[/link]

The maneuvers you mentioned are really just basic aerobatics and aren't 3-D maneuvers.

Ken

ahhh- ok. i thought any aerobatic maneuver was all in the "3D" category. Thank you! What is pattern flying then?? Sorry

Pattern flying is defined as going out and flying a set "pattern" every flight. This pattern is made up of certain maneuvers depending on the skill level the pilot is competing in. In competition pilots are judged on how well they fly the pattern.

3D by definition are maneuvers that are done while the wing of the plane is in a stalled condition.

Ken

gotcha thanks a lot rcken u made it very clear!

And here I thought the plane was flying in three dimensions as soon as you left the ground. ;-)

Tower Hobbies, if not your local shop, sells a paperback by Dave Patrick titles "Radio Control Aerobatics for Everyone" that is handy in getting you through most maneuvers - simple on up to Lomcevaks (which neither I or my current models are up to).

Think of "3-D" as flying your airplane like a helicopter or your helicopter like an airplane.