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Old 10-13-2007 | 02:32 PM
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today i was flying and i had a full battery and got it flying level thenthe servos just moved and th plane did a nose dive this plane is not wat it seems ive spent over $50 just repairing it
Old 10-13-2007 | 02:49 PM
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Sorry to hear that. Any more to the story like what kind of plane it was?
Old 10-13-2007 | 02:52 PM
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it was a hobby zone firebird phantom and it said it was really durable
Old 10-13-2007 | 04:19 PM
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I bought an Aerobird Challenger from Hobbyzone that I was rather disappointed with. Perhaps a Hobbico Flyzone Mini Ventura would be a better choice for you?

http://www.flyzoneplanes.com/airplanes/hcaa2008.html

At $84.99, it is a solid flyer for days with little wind.
Old 10-13-2007 | 04:24 PM
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im looking at the exceed rc acciepter badius now
Old 10-13-2007 | 08:14 PM
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How about spelling that properly so we will have some idea of what you are talking about? Please!
Old 10-13-2007 | 08:15 PM
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today i was flying and i had a full battery and got it flying level thenthe servos just moved and th plane did a nose dive this plane is not wat it seems ive spent over $50 just repairing it
Very typical of interference or someone "stepping" on your frequency...
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http://www.raidentech.com/3rareaircsae.html theres a linkand to day i was the only one out
Old 10-13-2007 | 08:57 PM
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I've had the Firebird Phantom and the Aerobird Challenger. They both flew very well in calm air.

But I have been "Shot Down" on other planes when someone turned a transmitter on that has the same frequency. They spiral in right now. Nothing you can do.
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http://www.raidentech.com/3rareaircsae.html theres a linkand to day i was the only one out
It seems like the plane is exactly what it seems.

But maybe the pilot needs to check to see if the frequency is open.

It really sounds like you were "shot down" by interference.



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Ahhh, Accipiter Badius. Might be interesting.
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It seems like the plane is exactly what it seems.

But maybe the pilot needs to check to see if the frequency is open.

It really sounds like you were "shot down" by interference.

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Yep , got a hit or dumb thumbs.
Old 10-13-2007 | 09:33 PM
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so that plane looks like a good one and so i was shot down?
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Old 10-13-2007 | 09:37 PM
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yay good ill order it now maby ill be flying by saturday
Old 10-13-2007 | 10:27 PM
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well i orderd it just got to wait
Old 10-13-2007 | 10:35 PM
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I've found that the safest place to fly a 27 MHz AM plane is out in the middle of nowhere. I know that Citizens band radio is from 26.965 MHz to 27.405MHz, but you'll find it more common for most CBers to have radios that will go up to and past 27.455. Generally, those channels are used for SSB (sideband) but there are some that will talk AM on those channels. The older RCI 2950's could be jumpered out to go from 26.000 to 40.000 MHz. Normally, the radio is tuned on channel 20 (in the middle of the band). The bad thing is that the farther away you get from channel 20, the less effective the antenna becomes. While it's not too noticible on sideband (because there's no carrier signal or dead key), AM modulation tends to splatter. It's even worse on a mobile unit because there's no earth ground to help absorb the splatter.
This might not be what is happening in your case, just something to watch for.
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ok thanks ill look for a romote feild
Old 10-14-2007 | 01:39 AM
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so i was shot down?

Interference or someone "stepping" on your frequency causes the servos to go nuts.

You may not notice this immediately as it takes a few seconds for you to realize that you no longer have control.

You find out about it when your plane does something very strange or noses in, turns over, etc.

Your description of the problem is typical of being "shot down".


Were you flying at a Club Field at the time?

Did you have your frequency pinned?

Did you scan the frequencies?



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BTW, very often we shoot ourselves down.

We had a case of that recently.
A newbie walked onto the field with his "anyone can fly it RTF/ARF" and threw it into the air. Flew around a bit and WHAM, straight in. Turned out somebody had turned on in the pits.

Turned out the guy in the pits had been flying all morning.
Turned out the guy in the pits had the frequency pin and had it from before he'd turned on the first time that morning.
Old 10-14-2007 | 07:52 AM
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oh
Old 10-15-2007 | 11:21 AM
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BTW, very often we shoot ourselves down.

We had a case of that recently.
A newbie walked onto the field with his "anyone can fly it RTF/ARF" and threw it into the air. Flew around a bit and WHAM, straight in. Turned out somebody had turned on in the pits.
Even though at our field, it is posted that you may NOT fly there unless you've been certified, we frequently have newbies show up...

More often than not kids with their fathers arrive, who bring in a Parkflyer plane newly purchased from the local LHS.

They switch them on w/o regard to frequencies.

Since they fly these off the flight lines, they seem to assume that those posted rules and regulations do not apply to them.

Aargh!

Old 10-15-2007 | 05:32 PM
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oh where i fly its just a big feild
Old 10-15-2007 | 10:13 PM
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That still doesn't mean you were not "shot down".

Interference, someone nearby with WiFi, a local pager tower, etc... all could have caused your plane to crash.

Club fields are often sweeped for interference ( at least our club does this ) to determine which channels NOT to use...
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another possibility is you got a little out of range. your plane will become erratic when that happens. I t might be hard tottell the diference between out of range and shot down????
have you looked at any of the bllue core or fanfold planes? this type of plane would allow you to have plenty of spare parts around cheap and they do have some trainer plans look around the ELECTRIC forums for ideas. these planes can be small to med size and are fun and easy to make.

check out the JK Aerotech T-52 for only 35 bucks ...you would need different radio gear and motor / battery but would be tough and a good flyer.

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