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Old 11-27-2007 | 06:43 PM
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I have a relative big back yard and would like to purchas a park flying aircraft. Which would be a good one for a beginner? I have a Nexstar that my instructor is teaching me on. Just look for something in my spare time.

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Old 11-27-2007 | 07:15 PM
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fomies are fun if you want. i am looking at the e-flite mini ultra stick for the high school i live next to and that is a good second plane that can be flown in a little space. other e-flite planes will work but im not sure of all of them. hope this helps
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The new Parkzone Cessna Centurion 210 micro RTF plane flies very very well in small spaces. Other choices for backyard flying could include the Parkzone Slo-V, the GWS Pico Tiger Moth, GWS Slow Stick, GWS Pico Stick, or GWS Pico J3 Cub.

Remember that these small lightweight flyers aren't well suited to breezy conditions (notice I didn't even say "windy," merely breezy conditions will splatter them) and you will want to be choosy as to when to fly them.

A number of skilled RC pilots I know still purchase Air Hogs planes from Target and Wal-Mart to fly indoors or to throw around the back yard. They can be a good way to horse around when you can't head out to the flying field.
Old 11-27-2007 | 10:54 PM
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Get a 3 mil depron foamy with landing gear and set it on low rates. Then just fly it as much as possible....YOU WILL CRASH...a lot.

You will need some glue and activator for repairs, but you will find that these cheap lessons will impove your skills tremendously. Foam is better than any simulator.....period.

Don't buy a GWS or Parkzone anything. Get a good foamie and learn to fly it by actually FLYING IT.

Have Fun!!
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There is a schmilion or so free plans for fan fold foamies. One of these and good onboard set up will allow you to remake repair or just make somthing diferent. The motor and electronics will survive for a long time. Many diferent styles of plane could be played with with one set of on board stuff.
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Get a 3 mil depron foamy with landing gear and set it on low rates. Then just fly it as much as possible....YOU WILL CRASH...a lot.

You will need some glue and activator for repairs, but you will find that these cheap lessons will impove your skills tremendously. Foam is better than any simulator.....period.

Don't buy a GWS or Parkzone anything. Get a good foamie and learn to fly it by actually FLYING IT.

Have Fun!!
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There is a schmilion or so free plans for fan fold foamies. One of these and good onboard set up will allow you to remake repair or just make somthing diferent. The motor and electronics will survive for a long time. Many diferent styles of plane could be played with with one set of on board stuff.
Wow! You guys have a lot of faith in the original poster to pick out a foamy or plans for a foamy, construct it, select his own power system including ESC, motor, servos, and receiver, and then get it trimmed out and flying all on his own.

So far, mrcoolpop has managed to open the box to his Nexstar Select RTF and screw together his wing halves and tail surfaces. I sure wouldn't discourage him from giving a depron scratch-build a try if he feels up to it, but a Parkzone RTF or GWS kit would give him a much better chance of success if he is brand new to model-building.
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Wow! You guys have a lot of faith in the original poster to pick out a foamy or plans for a foamy, construct it, select his own power system including ESC, motor, servos, and receiver, and then get it trimmed out and flying all on his own.

So far, mrcoolpop has managed to open the box to his Nexstar Select RTF and screw together his wing halves and tail surfaces. I sure wouldn't discourage him from giving a depron scratch-build a try if he feels up to it, but a Parkzone RTF or GWS kit would give him a much better chance of success if he is brand new to model-building.

ditto i even think that building a good fomie is hard and an arf will be better
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So what,

Foam is cheap experience..and after a few crashes he will be listening to his instructor with both ears.

Lighten-up already, these are TOY airplanes designed for fun and enjoyment. Most foam kits have a recommended setup that is fine for a beginner. I'm almost positive that the OP is literate and can read instructions. It's just not as hard as you two 'experienced flyers' make it out to be.

I have often wondered why people make something so simple seem so difficult. Keep failing till you succeed,...would be expensive with trainers, but with foam, it's just glue and activator.

Oh...and I meant to say a 6 mil depron foamie kit, not a 3 mil. Go out and learn to fly. Listen to those who encourage, and never let anyone tell you that this is hard to do. It takes TIME and PRACTICE...lots of it but it most certainly is not hard to do. You will not get TIME and PRACTICE once a week with your instructor. Once you have had a few lessons, play with foam...it's cheap, safe and YOU WILL CRASH...a lot. Enjoy !!!
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When I started flying, it was during the kid's school year, and my son had Boy Scouts on our club's training night. I had the hardest time getting to the field to train. I bought a GWS Slow Stick, and flew it at a park on the way to work, and sometimes at lunchtime, almost every day. It was relatively entertaining, and taught me a lot about flying r/c.

When summer came and I finally got to train, I soloed my trainer on my third or fourth night. I attribute this rather quick success 100% to the practice I was getting on the Slow Stick. It helped me with things like orientation, lining up approaches, and just helped me get relaxed with a plane in the air. It is also very hard to damage.

If you are looking for a relaxing flyer that will give you some stick time, I think the Slow Stick is great. You may get bored, but the airframe is only about $30 and you can transfer all of the radio gear to a faster plane.
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So what,

Foam is cheap experience..and after a few crashes he will be listening to his instructor with both ears.

Lighten-up already, these are TOY airplanes designed for fun and enjoyment. Most foam kits have a recommended setup that is fine for a beginner. I'm almost positive that the OP is literate and can read instructions. It's just not as hard as you two 'experienced flyers' make it out to be.

I have often wondered why people make something so simple seem so difficult. Keep failing till you succeed,...would be expensive with trainers, but with foam, it's just glue and activator.

Oh...and I meant to say a 6 mil depron foamie kit, not a 3 mil. Go out and learn to fly. Listen to those who encourage, and never let anyone tell you that this is hard to do. It takes TIME and PRACTICE...lots of it but it most certainly is not hard to do. You will not get TIME and PRACTICE once a week with your instructor. Once you have had a few lessons, play with foam...it's cheap, safe and YOU WILL CRASH...a lot. Enjoy !!!
I wasn't dismissing your suggestions out-of-hand, agexpert. I agree that pilots of all skill levels could benefit from the extra stick time that flying foamies could provide. They are inexpensive and fun to fly, and folks with any modelling experience at all should find them a reasonably quick and easy build.

I just thought you might consider the fact that many Nexstar trainees are completely new to RC flight and to modelling. I was when I first started flying a few years ago. I remember buying a field box kit then returning it and exchanging it for a pre-built box because the idea of sanding, gluing, and painting my own field box seemed overwhelming to me at the time.

mrcoolpop might be a lot more advanced than I was when I was a greenhorn back in 2005, but then again he might be in exactly the same place. Early success encourages us to dive into more challenging projects, but failures tend to stifle our growth. It's up to mrcoolpop to pick the challenge that he feels up to tackling at this time.
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I agree.

I just think that there is too much caution in some cases. Stick-time is the only way to improve your skills, that and sim time. But sim time is a poor substitute for ANY kind of actual stick-time. Sometimes the best teacher is failure.

I have been blessed. I had a year and a half to fly every single day and concentrate on building my skill-set....and I still suck at this.

Now I just wish I could get some time to fly....but work and family are more important right now. I am settling for daily foam. I have not flown a gasser in more than 2 months....anyone wanna buy a 50cc Yak and a 100cc 330l?
Old 11-29-2007 | 06:31 PM
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That's why I love this site. You can get so many opinions from different people and at the same time for me it's valuable information. I enjoyed them all and thank everyone for responding. However, I think I am going with the Mini Ultra Stick PNP. After researching and reading about it should suit me just fine. Again, thanks for the help.

MrCoolPop,
Old 11-29-2007 | 06:38 PM
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Exactly as I’m doing as I said. That is a great little plane and will suite anyone.
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ORIGINAL: mrcoolpop

That's why I love this site. You can get so many opinions from different people and at the same time for me it's valuable information. I enjoyed them all and thank everyone for responding. However, I think I am going with the Mini Ultra Stick PNP. After researching and reading about it should suit me just fine. Again, thanks for the help.

MrCoolPop,
You can even have your instructor buddy box with you the first couple of flights until you get a feel for the Ultra Stick. It will be more touchy than your Nexstar but alot of fun just the same.

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