my high wing trainer flies great with no or little wind but with a wind of 10mph or more its like im fighting the plane the get it to do what i want.. will my 2nd plane ( goldberg tiger .60) fly any better in the wind ??

What trainer are you flying?? I've flown my trainer (Tower Trainer 40) in winds up to 30 mph.

But to answer your question. All planes are going to be affected by the wind. A lot of how they act depends on the plane and more often than not the size of the engine you have in the plane. But each plane is going to act differently

Ken

I think that you can count on your Tiger 60 to fly better in the wind. Low wing planes have more ability to do so than high wing trainers. You didn`t say what size your trainer is, but if it`s a 40 then a good breeze will push it around all the more. Larger models ( like the 60 ) handle wind much better. One thing I`ve found with my Avistar is that it handles the wind better if I fly somewhat faster. That takes more advantage of its semi-symmetrical wing.

That Tiger 60 will cut through the wind with ease and tracks very nice.

You won't even know theres any wind with that plane!

I stuck an os 61 fx on it and it did ok. I changed to an os 91 surpass 4 stroke and it was ok but not the speed I wanted. I stuck a super tigre 90 on it and i now had a rocket! Wow! Unlimited vertical and all the speed I would ever want!

have fun with yours...your gonna love it

Ahhhh, the trick is that you must make yourself one with the wind young grasshopper!

Seriously though, I have noticed that the wind really scares some people. I can see not flying when its blowing at 20+ with gusts at 30+mph, but I have seen plenty of people who just stay grounded if theres more than a 5 mph breeze. Granted, the wind can cause some added dangers, and if its a crosswind will make landing more interesting.... But to put it in kind a touchy-feely way, if you really embrace the wind, and use it to play, it can be really fun, like surfing, even with a high wing trainer in a 20 mph breeze. If you have the mentality of "Fighting the wind" then the wind will always be the Enemy and you will have many less days to fly. Its all in how you look at it. After almost 2 years, Ive finally got my Dad to stop worrying constantly if theres the slightest breeze, and he seems to be having a lot more fun when we go out. ( and I dont hear that worried tone in his voice anymore when he used to say "oohhhhh, looks like theres some wind...")

my trainer is a goldberg eagle. with a os 46 LA.

The flat bottomed wing on your trainer has a lot to do with the way the wind pushes it around along with the light weight of your trainer.

Get some hours under your belt and that wind won't bother you a bit. In fact, it makes it more of a challenge and more fun knowing you are in total control instead of the plane controlling you as it does to most beginners.

Hang in there...it all takes time.

Get that Tiger .60 going and you won't have to worry about any wind period!

The higher the cruising speed of a plane, the less the wind will seem to blow it around. It has nothing to do with high or low wings, other than the fact that most high wing planes are designed to be lightweight slow flying floaters. Larger airplanes typically fly faster than small planes thus the seem to handle wind better. High wing planes that fly fast (quickie 500 racers for example) can also handle high wind.

A lot of trainers are very nose heavy for stability. The elevator has to be trimmed to fight that nose-heaviness. Because of this, any increase in airspeed (wind gust) not only makes the wing make more lift but also caused the up-trim of the elevator to pitch the nose up increasing the wing's angle of attack which results in a plane that "balloons" when a wind gust suddenly increases the airspeed. Planes with symetrical wings tend to be balanced closer to the wings center of lift which means that the elevator does not have to hold the nose up so much for level flight. This results in a plane that doesn't balloon up so drastically when the airspeed increases.

It is however, very very difficult to keep your model in sight while your feet are tied to the windsock support.

I had the same problem. LOL Got my Nexstar up high one day, where the wind was really blowing, and when I turned into the wind it just sat there at full throttle. LOL I banked it back and dropped way down to approach and landed it. You do get use to it after a while but a lot depends on the style of the plane and, more importantly, the size and weight. My 30% could really care about the wind, as long as it's not ridiculous, but I have a 50 size Funtana X that just won't come back down in a 10 mph wind. It's a real pain forcing it onto the runway and having it blow backwards when you cut the throttle. As you gain more experience and move on to larger planes the wind will be less of an issue for you. Oh, and if you see cows blowing by....don't take off!

Best thing that ever happened to me was that I got caught in a strong wind while flying my Kadet Sr. My first thought was, "I gotta get this thing down!" but, by the time I brought it around to land, it was more like a, "THis ain't so bad!" kinda moment. I won't say that I'm fearless if the wind is blowing but, if it's breezy and I've got my Sr. around, we're flyin!

Are you using the rudder? It often helps with wind compensation. BTW I learned on the Goldberg Eagle, GREAT AIRPLANE.

If you guys keep telling everybody how much fun playing with the wind can be, it won't be long and we won't be able to get in the air at all !!!! lol ENJOY !!! RED

I've seen alot of students try and fight the crab caused by the wind..crab is the tendency of the plane to slip into the wind..in other words the airplane is flying a straight course..but the nose is turned into the direction of the wind, or flying sideways.
Don't fight this, work with it, the airplane will still fly where you want it to. You'll need more throttle into the wind and less throttle downwind...on crosswind landings line up on the up wind side of the runway.and let the crosswind "push" you to center.
The biggest danger of flying in a cross wind with a high wing is the tendency of the wind to get under the wing on taxi or roll out and flip the aircraft over ..be ready on the ailerons..and push the stick into the wind to keep the wing down..

Flying in wind can be challenging, but also fun. Ever flown backwards?
I had my FourStar 40 up high and turned into the wind and she hovered then after throttling back and raising the nose a little she started flying backwards. Pretty cool.

The club where I fly is located on the top of a hill and on any given day there is some wind and it is mostly a cross wind. If the wind is 5 to 10 mph half the club will stay on the ground. It is not just the low time pilots that have such a conservative attitude; it is also pilots with 20-30 years of flying experience. It is unfortunate that they never did learn to fly with rudder. They only use the left stick to control the throttle or steer the plane on the ground.

With all of the beginning pilots I start early in the training getting them to use the rudder. This is especially true on the approach to landing. We fly off a 600 X 100 ft. grass runway with tall trees about 300 ft off the left end and short 20 ft trees off the right end.

Many pilots want to make a long straight in approach over the trees. This is bad for a couple of reasons:

1. The longer you are on final, the more time the wind has to blow you off your line.
2. When the plane is heading straight toward you at 500-600 ft away it is harder to judge your depth perception and air speed.

I train new pilots to make a ‘carrier approach’ where plane turns on the base leg when even with the runway threshold and turn on short final as they approach the runway. Make the turn on final using rudder and very little bank. A 10-15 degree bank is preferred over a 45-90 degree bank. On a high wing trainer with lots of dihedral this may require that they cross control the rudder and aileron. This also gives better pitch control. Giving up elevator while in a 90 deg. bank will not get the nose up, it will only tighten the turn. The other issue is when you are in a steep bank the plane is more susceptible to the effects of the crosswind.

Once they are lined up on final then steer the plane with the rudder and keep the wings level with the ailerons. Actually I try to keep the upwind wing about 5 deg. low so the wind can’t get under it as easy. If you keep the wings level the wind on the vertical fin will cause the plane to naturally want to weathervane into the wind. This is a good thing and is exactly what you want. If the wind is blowing you off the centerline, then use throttle and rudder as required to get back where you are supposed to be. Just as you get back into ground effect, 1-2 ft. off the ground, the wind will often times be significantly reduced. Release the rudder and let the plane straighten out and settle on to the runway. Done right this is a beautiful thing to see. A plane coming down the runway in a hard crab and straightening out for a perfect touchdown.

Once you are comfortable with the technique, flying in the wind gets to be a lot more fun and a lot safer.

This has been one of the windiest years at our club in Eastern North Carolina. I believe more of our members have been flying on windy days. Since now I only fly SPAD planes I worry very little about the wind rolling the plane over. There is almost never any damage. If you can get to the point of not worrying if the plane is damaged ( you are comfortable making repairs) you will enjoy all kinds of flying more. Calm day flying can get boring. A landing on a gusting day is an adrenelin rush. Do drugs needed. You can be high all day when the wind is blowing.

Here's a wind story.....I lost my Ultra RC Giles (12 lb. aerobat) on a windy day when the engine quit....normally that's no problem but while I was deciding which way to turn the wind blew the plane out over the trees (very lightly loaded wing) and that was that.....could not make it back.

My normal instinct is to NOT bring the nose down on a deadstick but that's what I needed to do in that situation.

Anyway remember that in windy conditions deadstick situations need to be handled with that wind force in mind. And it's usually better to land under control in the tall grass than out of control on the runway. i.e., you'll be better off if the nose of the plane is pointing into that strong wind on landing.

I fly a Kadel LT-40 - a lightly loaded high wing trainer with flat bottom airfoil. I find I can fly it better in the wind than on a calm day. Only way to get better flying in the wind is to do it. I can't taxi my LT-40 perpendicular to the wind without it blowing over but once in the air, the wind is merely relative.

A strong crosswind would be a bit more challenging than a breeze down the middle of the runway of course but as long as you have ailerons and rudder it can be done.

I've gotten used to flying in the wind over the last couple of years. I flew my Tiger 2 during a November fun fly back in '06 with the wind blowing a steady 30 mph without any trouble. I built a Tower Trainer .40 MkII ARF last spring, and I've been flying that all year when it seems like we maybe only had three calm days all year.

Well, one day this November, I decided I wanted to go flying even though it was blowing and gusting pretty good. I took my Tower Trainer up and was flying it like I stole it. I was pointing it into the wind and looping it and rolling it and having a blast.

I came around for a landing and thought I'd gotten lucky when the wind seemed to die down for my landing approach. I lined up over the runway and then cut the throttle back to one or two clicks above idle. I was about ten foot above the asphalt when a 35-40 mph gust just roared up again all of the sudden.

The gust picked the plane up and flipped it upside down, then slammed the upside down airplane onto the asphalt. It was totally worth it and I can't wait to fly again when it's blowing like a hairdryer out at the field!

Flying with the wind initially takes some courage, and you have to be aggressive in your flying. With strong gusting winds, the typical chop and drop landing isn't going to cut it. You have to fly the plane down to the ground. Easy on the elevator, and anticipate. Keep the wings level. With a cross wind, banking the plane slightly into the cross wind will help. And if you get an opening to get on the ground, take it and get down quickly.

And once you learn how to fly in the wind, your flying on calm days will improve exponentially.

Brad

Lots of answers here,but you didnt say exactly what you were having the most trouble with.

I learned to fly with wind 5-15 didn't have much choice were i live. The main trouble i had was it was hard banking that, high wing, high dihedral trainer.

If you havn't already,learn to use that rudder, its more difficult to bank a high wing in the wind using only ailerons.
applying rudder will make it much easier to turn, and also to land in cross winds.
when landing with a cross wind, keep the nose of the plane pointed into the wind, making ajustments to stay lined up on
the runway, flare as usual, then straighten out on the runway just before landing.

You should learn to love the wind. That hard flying should become a fun. Now to answer question. Another plane will handle wind much better than your trainer. However I almost will I still had my trainer for windy days. [:@]