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Old 12-24-2007 | 08:19 AM
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Here is a good example of why a beginner should not start off with a piper cub as their first plane. The first take-off may be your last! ..... Unless you have an instructor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLJ_n...eature=related

This take-off looks a little better.....hangar 9 cub
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_edR...eature=related

Old 12-24-2007 | 08:29 AM
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I think a little throttle management on takeoff is in order.
Old 12-24-2007 | 08:51 AM
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That really has nothing to do with it being a Cub, the guy took off before he had sufficient flying speed. A trainer would have done the same thing in that situation.

A bigger reason why a Cub is a poor choice of trainer is the weak cabin under the wing. One hit on a wingtip and the cabin will be toast.
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That really has nothing to do with it being a Cub, the guy took off before he had sufficient flying speed. A trainer would have done the same thing in that situation.

A bigger reason why a Cub is a poor choice of trainer is the weak cabin under the wing. One hit on a wingtip and the cabin will be toast.
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Old 12-24-2007 | 08:59 AM
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A bigger reason why a Cub is a poor choice of trainer is the weak cabin under the wing. One hit on a wingtip and the cabin will be toast.
How true , I love my GB Cub, but it does`nt take much to break the weak area in the cabin . I even switched to nylon bolts. But as Minn has stated before , I have yet to have them shear off , and they will break out the wing mounts before they will break.

I could of swore , that's was a 4 stroke in the first video, and then a 2 stroke in the second ?
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It would appear to me that the person flying that cub is actually fairly experienced. Yes he was hot dogging the take off, but you'll notice that once the plane started rolling to the left, he didn't panic, he reacted quickly, added throttle, and stayed off the elevator. The maneuvers later in flight, and then the recognition that "somethings not right" and a nice line up and smooth deadstick landing are all marks of experience.

You are correct that these are all reasons why a beginner should not fly a cub (or any other plane for that matter) without proper instruction. Had that been a beginner without an instructor, there would have been toothpicks on the runway.

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Old 12-24-2007 | 10:02 AM
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It would appear to me that the person flying that cub is actually fairly experienced. Yes he was hot dogging the take off, but you'll notice that once the plane started rolling to the left, he didn't panic, he reacted quickly, added throttle, and stayed off the elevator. The maneuvers later in flight, and then the recognition that "somethings not right" and a nice line up and smooth deadstick landing are all marks of experience.

You are correct that these are all reasons why a beginner should not fly a cub (or any other plane for that matter) without proper instruction. Had that been a beginner without an instructor, there would have been toothpicks on the runway.

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Thank you! That's all I was trying to point out "without an instructor." Sorry I even posted it in the first place.
Old 12-24-2007 | 10:26 AM
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I have 3 Cubs, your take off looks pretty good compared to a few of mine. I had a flame out right after I took off in a heavy crosswind. Landed on top of the Club house. lol Still have`nt lived that one down yet.
Old 12-24-2007 | 10:53 AM
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Actually those weren't my take-offs. I happened to find them on youtube.

Sorry about your mishap. It happens to the best of us, experience or no experience.



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Seems like an experience piloit to be judging by what happens in the video later on

on thought is there a chance he was attempting a ""Snapasarus" take off but aborted looks about right....

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That really has nothing to do with it being a Cub, the guy took off before he had sufficient flying speed. A trainer would have done the same thing in that situation.
Flying my LT-40 I routinely start my takeoff roll with ½ throttle and full up elevator. It'll roll, rotate then it's in the air. Applying more throttle and easing off the stick keeps it from stalling out but I have a torquey .46 with 11x5 prop. I'm sure less forgiving aircraft could snap suddenly doing that but it's fun with the Kadet.

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