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Old 04-08-2008 | 06:23 PM
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I am looking into a starter kid. I notce some are 4 chanel some are 6?. I understand the 4 chanels but whare are the 2 extra for?
Old 04-08-2008 | 06:43 PM
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adoption for a kid try china
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6CH radios have the option of Gear and Flaps or what ever else you want to use the extra 2 chanels for.... 4CH is all that is needed to learn, but a 6CH radio will last you longer before it is outgrown.
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oh. ok.

sounds cool. that answered my question!
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My kid has over 400 chanels! And she is a gril!
Old 04-08-2008 | 06:53 PM
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Seriously, if you are just starting get a 6 channel radio. Don't overlook the 6XM Tower transmitter, it works great and is made by Futaba, and you can save a few bucks$
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oh. ok.

sounds cool. that answered my question!
Glad to help... amid the resident class clowns. I thought it, but gave help instead of saying it.


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My kid has over 400 chanels! And she is a gril!
I couldn't imagine having a 400CH Kid and having the signal drop... that leaves alot to go wrong.
Old 04-08-2008 | 06:59 PM
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if you were going to chose a starter plane what one of these would u chose?

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4537845/tm.htm

out of the ready to fly beginer cat.

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I personally would go with the Alpha 60... possibly the NexStar (without AFS). I have seen both work very well, but I perfer to train on a 60 size bird as it is easier for the student to see and a little more stable in wind gusts.
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if you were going to chose a starter plane what one of these would u chose?

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4537845/tm.htm

out of the ready to fly beginer cat.

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That depends on what your current skill level is. Have you ever flown before? ever touched a tx radio...either in real life or simulators. Are you familiar with orientation, controls and the simple facts about how a plane works?

If you are an absolute beginner, then go with something like the Nexstar... (disable the auto level system thing). It's a big plane, easier to see, control, it floats well on low speed and has some extra perks to help a super beginner fly.

If you are familiar with the basics and you have tendency to learn quick, go with something a bit more in the moderate trainer category like say the Avistar. That's what I went with because I've been doing simulators, not just RC but MS Flight simulator since 1998 so i've got some experience when it comes to flight controls and orientation controls. It can be a moderate acrobatic plane after you are done training... that's why I went with it.

I see you were asking the difference between channels so I am assuming that you might be buying a ARF kit and radio separately, if that is the case, look into the Tower hobbies 40. It's a good plane and i've seen it fly, with it's high dihedral, it will float no problem and it very easy to fly from what I have seen.

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I just got my first plane. I got the Nexstar ARF. ARF allowed me to choose my radio and engine, in case I wanted to upgrade or save a few bucks. It also gave me the opportunity to assemble the plane to see how things work, especially in case something needs to get fixed down the road (which it will).

I chose a 6 channel computer radio (Futaba 6EX). The Nexstar has instructions for adding extra aileron servo, and with a computer radio you can enable flaps. While they are not needed on a trainer, it will give me the opportunity to experiment with some options and modifications, and thus enable me to get a more advanced second plane.

The Nexstar ARF does not come with the AFS which everyone says to turn off anyway. It is one of the easier planes to assemble, looks great too, and parts are available everywhere. There are some who might say negative things about this plane, but they are outweighed by the thousands who have trained on Nexstars and loved it. One guy on one of these posts somewhere even made some awesome modifications and turned it into a tail dragger, and removed the dihedral for a sportier flying plane...it looks great.

Anyway, just want to plug the ARF planes over the RTF planes. You will learn and gain a lot from the experience of assembling your plane.
Old 04-08-2008 | 08:55 PM
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Lots of great info here everyone, and thanks for all the advise!

I have never flown anything in real life. I played flighsimulator X for a while, and I heve been playing RealFlight G4 demo with much succes. I understan how a plane flys. I have ectensive RC experence with both electric and nitro powere on and off road vehicles.
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Maybe then check out the Avistar. It is an 'advanced trainer' in that the bottom of the wing is not totally flat, and I think it has a little less dihedral than say the Nexstar. More sporty than a basic trainer.
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enr if you watch the spelling and grammar we can help you much better. If you are looking at a kit a sig lt-40 is great and a good flyer. You also can buy outfits with the engine and radio included and installed. charge and fly but get help if you a new. the plane wont last you 10 seconds without an instructor. i know you meant kit but i guess my comment about adoption was considered bad, I didn t mean it that way as a lot of famiies adopt children from china
Old 04-08-2008 | 09:46 PM
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I know. not the best speller and I runs on typing and mess up a bit. I will try to keep it to a min.

I hooked up with a member in some PM's and he highly sugested the Tower Trainer 40. and with the deals tower has I got it for $233 including shipping AND a $15 gift card.

it says I need field equiptment. what does that include?. glow starter and ?.. do I need somehting to spin it up to start it or can I do it by hand?.. I believe I heard that there is some diffrent way you fill them with gas?..
Old 04-08-2008 | 10:11 PM
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you need a quALIFIED instructor. best fueling method is called a six shootor hand crank the electric pumps can catch fire. you will need a glow plug starter. i use a firemans kevlar glove and hand start. ive been convertingveverything to electric though. even my large 30 lb fighters. call me tommorow evening 989-797-3645 ill help ya ok im going to bed now. please get someone who can fly to teach you if you could get here for a weekend id have you flying
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Definitely get a trainer.

Do you need a list of all materials for assembly or just for the field?
Old 04-08-2008 | 10:24 PM
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the trainer i bought is all asembled. I just need to do a few little things to get it going.

I need a lisk of field equiptment. but I think i got it all covered. the only thing I dont have is a fuel pump
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Tower trainer is a great choice. It's quality stuff with the most detailed instructions manual. As a matter of fact, I used the Tower instructions to put together my Avistar (very similar method). Download the Avistar manual and tower manual and you'll see what I mean .

As far as constructing it, VERY easy and I'm a first timer. Follow the instructions and you'll be set.

Field equipment is just the basic stuff you'll need on the field. That includes a fuel pump (I got the tower hobby hand crank), glow igniter (If you are a car guy, you already have this). Hope you got propellers, epoxy, CA glue, foam, fuel tubing... check out this thread that I made before ordering. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7306709/tm.htm

You may also want to invest in a voltwatch, If your battery dies in air, you cannot do anything other than gather the pieces.

As far as starting the engine, you can use an electric start if you want. Or a chicken stick, I used the handle on my screwdriver which is a hard rubber material (same as chicken stick).

lastly, please please please please PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be very careful of the rotating propellers. They are VERY sharp and fast, I learned that the hard way yesterday. I have have Fifteen 10mm long cuts starting from the tip of my thumb and all the way back to my palm. I was very fortunate that it didn't slice my thumb off. so PLEASE be very careful.

Lastly, the videos at http://www.gettingairborne.com/ (small fee) are VERY helpful and I HIGHLY advise them. But do follow them, else you might lose a thumb like I almost did
Old 04-09-2008 | 12:57 AM
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I have a bump starter for my car, maybe I can get a attachment to make it work with a prop.

I will look into that voltwatch, that seems like a scarry situation, no control at all!..ekk.

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