ianjdixon12345

Everybody,

if i were to get my first low wing plane what would you suggest?

i have heard of these models: Yak 54, Extra 300 and 330s, the Giles 202...

are there any other models you would suggest?

does anyone know if one model i have listed is better than another?

Ian

craigss11

I got a Hangar 9 Pulse XT 40 as my second plane,it''s low winged and flys like a dream,but still flys like a sports plane when yo want
Cheers

opjose

Yes the Pulse is a VERY GOOD choice.

Easy to land yet it can get as acrobatic as you wish.

da Rock

As a beginner, lean toward straight wing models for awhile. No matter where the wing is, if it tapers, it tip stalls. The planform of the wing is the major feature that decides where it stalls. Non-tapering wings stall from the root out. Wings with tip chord that''s shorter than the root chord naturally stall from the tips in. Twist ''em and they don''t suddenly start stalling from the root out. They just stall from the tips at a very slightly greater AOA, one that most modelers can''t begin to judge.

One of the bestflying low wings is the Tiger. TigerII, Tiger40, Tiger60, or Tiger120, all are excellent fliers.

The Calmato Sport in either 40 or 60 size is basically a ripoff of the Tiger. They''re lighter and much more ARF than the ARF Tigers.

Here''s my TigerII with my Calmato. Both had OS46AXs in them at the time. The Calmato was a bit friskier, but the Tiger left nothing to be desired. Other than it was a bit harder to snap roll as it has appreciably less elevator area proportion of the horizontal tail. (Which makes it even less apt to stall from too much elevator.)

bigedmustafa

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Some of the better less expensive low wing sport planes out there include:

Phoenix Models Dolphin .46 ARF (Tower Hobbies)
World Models Sky Raider Mach II ARF (Airborne Models)
World Models Super Sports .40 ARF (Airborne Models)
World Models LA Racer .40 ARF (Airborne Models)
Wingman II ARF (The Wings Maker)
Lanier Dart .40 ARF (Tower Hobbies)
Tower Hobbies Voyager MkII ARF (Tower Hobbies)
VMar Ramrod ARF (Richmond RC)
VMar Xtreme Stik Low Wing ARF (Richmond RC)
Sportsman Aviation Sport Stik ARF (Hobby People)
Black Horse Models Super Air .46 ARF (Hobby People)
Black Horse Models Travel Air .46 ARF (Hobby People)
Black Horse Models Speed Air .46 ARF (Hobby People)

All of these airframes are $99.99 or less in price, and are excellent sport planes suitable for any pilot who has mastered their 4-channel glow trainer. Gaining experience with any of the above airframes will help the new pilot learn more advanced aerobatics and better prepare that pilot for scale aerobatic planes like the Extra 300S or Giles 202 that the original poster mentioned.

da Rock

Lots of models are designed to snap roll easily. To do that, they are designed so that the elevator can easily stall the wing. And they often have wings like on the Yak, Extra, Giles, tapered. They wind up being excellent aerobatic airplanes. They also are airplanes that will drop a wing on landing it the speed is too slow or the nose is too high. And they snap out of loops if pushed a bit too fast, slow, or with too much elevator.

The planes on your list are not good second airplanes, or good first low-wingers.

flyX

I would suggest a straight wing cord designs as Da Rock had gone exensively to explain to you.
However i would also sugguest going to a tail drager too.

I had a lot of fun flying the ace 4-40 but it is no longer in production.
It's not even a low wing...it's a mid wing or shoulder wing.

There's also the SE, Let your instructor take it up and land it for the first and maybe second flight
as you did with your trainer. As you get more comfortable with the model, you land it easily on low rates.

Jetdesign

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Does adding flaps and using them lead to an increased possibility of a stall?

Nathan King

It depends on where the flaps are located or if you are using flaperons. For example, flaps toward the tips of the wings will create a loss of control in a stall. Most airplanes have a slightly "twisted" wing to make sure the root stalls first. That way you still have some roll control in the stall (not that you would necessarily want to use ailerons to get out of it. I can elaborate if you like). Flaps toward the wing ends would work against this. Now, if your flaps are properly set up they will allow the pilot to descend at a steep angle without increasing airspeed; however, they are not speed brakes. Because flaps increase both the camber of the wing and the angle of attack by lowering the trailing edge, they allow the same amount of lift to be developed at lower airspeeds. Most often the first bit of flaps add more lift than drag and as you near full extension you get more drag than lift.

Flaps change the center of pressure on the wing and will cause a pitch change. This is why I usually test them well above the ground. Applying flaps may cause a pitch up or down depending on many variables so be ready.

ChuckW

Like has already been mentioned, don''t get one of these for your first low wing plane. I wouldn''t even consider a scale plane at all. Take a look at the Sig 4-Star, Great Planes Rapture, Hangar-9 Pulse-XT, Goldberg Tiger-2, World Models Sky Raider Mach-2, and so on. Save the scale aerobatic plane for #3 or maybe even #4. How do I know this? I bought a Sukhoi before I was ready for it a few years back. It would snap, tip stall and do all sorts of other stuff that I knew nothing about yet. Luckily I never destroyed it but I was so scared to fly it that I sold it.

Supercharged6-71

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I have been out of flying for almost 20 years, I had a Gb trainer for my first plane, and a GB tiger for second plane, third plane was GB ultimate BI Plane, it was stolen.
I purchased a Lanier Dart 40, I put a Magnum .46 engine in it.
This plane built great, and flies even better, all trim's are left in nuetral settings, I didn't have to trim this airplane one bit in flight.
I built this plane just like instructions say, never had any problems, covering was a little loose , but I call this maintance more then repair.
So far, after 4 flights she flies great, next flight out I plan full throttle flights, can't wait.

vegas mossie

easy sport 40 is a mid wing plane, best of both worlds