Hey everyone.. I was wondering if hanging glow planes vertical like I have them here is bad for the engines! THANKS

Not at all. I do it all the time and have never had a problem with any of my engines.

Ken

Alright Ken Thanks, I took the planes out to the field for the first time in a while last weekend.. and they've been hanging for about a month or 2 like that and everything went fine... I was just wondering if any harm can be done by hanging planes this way....
Thank you!

It is supposed to be a bad idea. Nose up is thought to be better. Why combustion by products are corrosive so if they run into the crankshaft area the bearings will suffer.

If you are meticulous about running the engine dry then using after run oil then nose down is OK [ISH]

Me - mine get stored nose up and I have some old engines still in good condition.

looks like a good set up,like the peg board wish I had some in my shop, if I was to do anything different I would pad the hangars so they don't dig into the rear stab,I would worry about fatigue in the wood and connection at the elevator over time,never can hurt to pad any metal hangar.
here's what I did with shelf brackets and some pipe insulation.

Wow, I stopped by the Home Depot after work today to design the exact same setup in my spare bedroom it just seemed like the best way to do it…[sm=idea.gif]

But I’m thinking about building some type of rack transport system for my SUV… maybe using PVC pipe????

Any Ideas???


God Bless and happy landings,

Stuart

there is a bunch of info on PVC airplane racks do a search and you will find several threads on the subject.
Home Depot is where I got all the shelf parts for my rack,the pipe insulation holds onto the brackets pretty tightly,and doesn't pull off at all.

The main problem I had hanging planes nose down is fuel leakage (you can never completely drain a tank). It works it way into the spinner and caused the spinner to spin off easily when starting the plane. If I hang a plane it is horizontaly or nose up.

As for hanging planes vertically...I've done it for 3-4 years now, and got the idea form my uncle who's been doing it for 30+. Doesn't seem to have caused either of us any problems. *shrug*

Here's an idea I came up with 2 years ago for the wife's van, and have duplicated in my new Kia Sportage:

Go to any hardware/home goods store, and pick up some shower rods. I've found the screw-type (the ones where you screw in or out the one end to set the length) work a bit better, but the spring-type will work as well. You'll need at least 4 of them.

Then run to the plumbing section, and get some sort of pipe hangers. They're shaped like a J usually, though other types will work. http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...5216&lpagenone is an example at Lowe's. You'll want one of these per shower-rod for each "level" of rack you plan to build. (So, if you want to have 2 levels, you'll need 8 of them...hope that made sense)

You'll then want some hose clamps...two for each pipe hanger.

And finally, some PVC pipe to use as the "racks" themselves.

Using the hose-clamps, attach the pipe-hangers to the shower-rods.

Then, place the rods in the SUV/Van running floor to ceiling, using whatever adjustment method the rods have to make sure they're good and sturdy.

Finally, place the PVC in the pipe hangers, running side to side (horizontally in the vehicle, in other words). Have one in the rear, another up front, and others in the middle if needed, depending on plane size/weight.

Poof. Airplane transport rack system. It's cheap, requires no more tools than a screwdriver, and can be easily and quickly removed from the vehicle, without modifying the interior in any way. You can slide large gassers under the bottom rack, and then run other planes on the racks themselves. With a little creativity and some extra rods, you can even have a wing rack on one side.

Using this method, I can transport:

1/3rd scale Pitts Bulldog
Giant Aeromaster
.40 sized Super stick
GWS Slow Stick
Funtana .90

All in a Kia Sportage. Granted, there's no room for a passenger in that scenario, but that's a whole bunch of airplane in such a small vehicle.

Here's a quick and dirty drawing of the concept (VERY quick and dirty....don't laugh *heh*). I'll drag my system out and install it this afternoon when I get home from work, and post some pictures.

I hang mine nose up using the top part of a coathanger hook with a loop of rope. I loop it around the propeller and then hang them up like I would a shirt onto a angle iron with lots of holes in it. I also plug the carb inlet and muffler outlet with earplugs to keep the oil in the engine and the dirt out.

I love the "don't laugh" on your diagram gboulton.

Have always hung my planes nose down, usually to save space. with careful placement of the hanging points you can pack quite a few fuses into a small space. Wings go horizontal in a wall rack.

When I saw the thing about don't laugh, I went back to check the pic and had to look close because at first I thought they were talking about something else in that diagram. I won't say what cause I don't want to get in trouble

Here's a neat product that Minn and I saw in Toledo this year. Very unique and simple solution to storing plane.

[link=http://www.wingsling.com]www.wingsling.com[/link]

Ken

I have had most of my planes hang by its tail (nose down) for some large periods of time (I have 15 years in the hobby), let me tell you what I have heard and done succesfuly. When you know that you are going to put a plane a side for a while, then take out the glow plug and fill the head of the engine with transmission oil, use something else to cover the hole of the glow plug (Put the glow plug somewhere else and where you can find it after works or in spring time) then just let the plane hanged by its tail. The transmission oil will preserve the engine for a large amount of time.
When ever you feel ready to use your plane once again, then open the glow plug hole and drain the engine, put the glow plug again in place and your engine will start inmediatly, just like the last time.

alfredbmor

Stupid question, why don't you just re-install the plug once the cylinder is full of oil?

Steven

I hang models nose down or store horizontally on a rack. Nose down is fine. Bearings accumulate some oil. That will go away with a flight or two. No problems here.

Ref. the fuel thing. On regular 2-line systems, I place a short piece of clear tubing (old nyrod, etc. ) spliced into the pressure line. When through flying pull the press. line apart with clear tube in tank side. Remove the feed line from throttle or filter and place on the tube. No fuel moves out of tank.
Three line system, close throttle to shutoff. Plug muff. pressure line. Fill line is plugged anyway. No spill on Mom's carpet, especially when carrying model from flying into basement. Learned that when I lived in yankee country and had that great basement.

Do people use an air filter over the carb air inlet, or plug the carb air inlet during storage?

Save an old glow plug, paint it red or what ever and put back in. Painted you will know its old and not for use. Like an old wine, it wouldn't hurt to spin the prop around a couple times once in a while to move lubrication around.

So long as you didn't laugh.

Hey, since you're an F-15 fan, drop me a PM...I might have some interesting images/stories to share with you...Dad helped design that bird.

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Sorry i didn't get pictures made of the rack yesterday. I'll try to get it done today.

I have been told that chemicals of the transmission fluid can ruin the coil of the glow plug in a long term period, I just do not want for any chance to happen so I just remove the good one plug and put a dummy one.

In all my two stroke engines I plug the carburetor and use a dummy glow plug. I do not like leaks in the place where I store my planes.