Well ive got roughly £200 to spend on a Model plane that is fully operational. I have seen two models a Soarer and a Paerl Habour both RTF for about £90 from some guy on Ebay from whom i bough my Firebird XL from. Im wondering if anyone else can help me with which one of the two i should get or suggest any others?

Slow Stick.
Sorry, but I've never heard of either of those planes. Do they have ailerons?

never heard of either of them, a desctription would be good, if youve only ever flown the firbird youve never realy flown, IMHO the firebird and other planes of similar ilk bear absolutly no resembalance to the what a "normal" model plane flies or handles.

yes that is true i know that becuase the firebird is too easy to fly i believe and gives no real satisfaction! its impossible to crash apart from hitting a tree or a real bad land. u can check the planes out here -> http://www.rchobby.co.uk/easy_to_fly...l_harbour.html and http://www.rchobby.co.uk/radio_contr...y_to_fly_.html . Any other suggestion guys?

anyone?

If you have never flown anything but a Firebird before, and want to get into powered planes, I suggest that you get a .40 size RTF trainer. But from looking at the links I definitely do not recommend getting the Pearl Habour if you have no experience aside from the Firebird. Happy Flying!

i would get a .40 sized trainer but glow engined planes require a liecence in the Uk which isnt too hard to get but you do have to fly in designated flying areas which liveing in a dense city like london is hard to find!

Not familiar with either of these, but just from the looks and the write up I would say the Pearl Harbor would be a handful and a half compared to your Firebird (I have a Fighterbird). It looks to be light and very manoueverable, meaning a bit of wind would get you learning foam repair quickly. The two you mention are different approaches to flight. The Soarer would be nice for relaxing, easy paced flight with no spectacular manouevers involved. The Pearl Harbor would be faster paced with lots of rolls and loops possible.

Check out the Hobby Lobby site http://www.hobby-lobby.com/

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/fokke3.htm Here's one the I think would work out nice, and may be in your budget?? (Last time I was in England it was 3.5 lbs to the dollar - I think we've caught up some since then).

Needing a license to fly models in the UK is news to me (unless you are flying VERY large heavy models which need an exemption certificate)

Used to need a license for the radio control (20 years ago when I started) but that has not been required for many years now.

Assuming you are serious about model flying (you are prepared to throw £200 at the hobby?) then it makes sense to join the BMFA and get insured. It also be a good idea to find a local club and take advice/help from the experienced members, living in london need not prevent you from doing this.

Where in London do you live?

Simon.

Charlie P its £'s no lb's. lb's is the weight, just though u would like to know . The conversion rate if something roughly like $10 to £7 so bacially £200 in $ would be $322 (see http://www.xe.com/ucc/) And slug i live in the south east, check your private messages coz i sent u one

I know. I am too lazy to bother trying to set up "£" as a special character on my keyboard, and I don't know the ASCII code to drop it in manually.

lol ok!