Again, I would like some advice
05-02-2008 | 07:39 PM
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Again, I would like some advice
I am getting comfortable flying the kadet LT-40 and thinking about purchasing my second plane. I will continue to fly the Kadet until I am certain I am ready but would like to go ahead and buy my next plane to be ready just in case something bad happens. I am leaning towards two different planes and several different engines. This is a two part question, plane and engine. What combo do you like?
Ultra Stick 40 w/ Evolution .46 (cheap and I am comfortable with this engine, its on my trainer.)
w/ O.S. AX .55 ( a great engine, with plenty of power, but will it make much difference compared to the cheaper Evolution?)
w/ Saito .82 ( awesome sound and power, but the COST!!)
Pulse XT 60 w/ O.S. AX .75 ( from what I hear, should be a rocket!)
w/ Evolution .61 (just enough engine but a lot of savings, I am a little worried about the larger Evolution)
w/ Saito .82 (enough motor but for a little more you can get the .100 saito)
w/ Saito .100 ( power to spare, but pricey)
So what do you think? I know I will have to wait on ordering the Pulse 60 , but I am in know hurry. Is there a better plane and engine I have over looked? As long as it is not a 4 Star 40, great plane I know but not for me.
Ultra Stick 40 w/ Evolution .46 (cheap and I am comfortable with this engine, its on my trainer.)
w/ O.S. AX .55 ( a great engine, with plenty of power, but will it make much difference compared to the cheaper Evolution?)
w/ Saito .82 ( awesome sound and power, but the COST!!)
Pulse XT 60 w/ O.S. AX .75 ( from what I hear, should be a rocket!)
w/ Evolution .61 (just enough engine but a lot of savings, I am a little worried about the larger Evolution)
w/ Saito .82 (enough motor but for a little more you can get the .100 saito)
w/ Saito .100 ( power to spare, but pricey)
So what do you think? I know I will have to wait on ordering the Pulse 60 , but I am in know hurry. Is there a better plane and engine I have over looked? As long as it is not a 4 Star 40, great plane I know but not for me.
05-02-2008 | 07:52 PM
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RE: Again, I would like some advice
You already have the engine so the next step is clearly the Ultra Stick 40.
A lot of fun and cheap. (you have everything except the plane which is around $129.00)
Then I would save for my third plane, Hangar 9 Pulse sounds really great with the OS AX 75 option which can handle a 14"x 6" prop at 9500 rpm. with cheap 15% nitro fuel.
If you want to go further then acquire a Saito 100 and bolt it to the Pulse and have a great time.
Just my opinion.
A lot of fun and cheap. (you have everything except the plane which is around $129.00)
Then I would save for my third plane, Hangar 9 Pulse sounds really great with the OS AX 75 option which can handle a 14"x 6" prop at 9500 rpm. with cheap 15% nitro fuel.
If you want to go further then acquire a Saito 100 and bolt it to the Pulse and have a great time.
Just my opinion.
05-02-2008 | 08:02 PM
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RE: Again, I would like some advice
Pulse 60 would be a nice choice with the 75. Although I`ve had good luck with the Evolution 46, their larger engines have received rather dismal reviews. I`d stay away from the larger Evolutions personally.
05-02-2008 | 08:11 PM
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From what I hear the Pulse XT is an awesome second plane. I am in a position similar to yours and am looking into a Pulse 40, so I can use my .46 that I already have, and then get something really great for a 3rd setup (once I'm comfortable tuning, flying different planes, etc.). I also was thinking about getting something bigger too, as I figure I'll want to get into a bigger plane at some point, but like I said, probably for #3 once I've trashed a plane or two.
From the list I like Pulse 60 w/ Saito. And I can't say I've ever seen someone regret having extra engine - there's even a saying "there's no replacement for displacement."
From the list I like Pulse 60 w/ Saito. And I can't say I've ever seen someone regret having extra engine - there's even a saying "there's no replacement for displacement."
05-02-2008 | 08:33 PM
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You already have the engine so the next step is clearly the Ultra Stick 40.
A lot of fun and cheap. (you have everything except the plane which is around $129.00)
Then I would save for my third plane, Hangar 9 Pulse sounds really great with the OS AX 75 option which can handle a 14"x 6" prop at 9500 rpm. with cheap 15% nitro fuel.
If you want to go further then acquire a Saito 100 and bolt it to the Pulse and have a great time.
Just my opinion.
You already have the engine so the next step is clearly the Ultra Stick 40.
A lot of fun and cheap. (you have everything except the plane which is around $129.00)
Then I would save for my third plane, Hangar 9 Pulse sounds really great with the OS AX 75 option which can handle a 14"x 6" prop at 9500 rpm. with cheap 15% nitro fuel.
If you want to go further then acquire a Saito 100 and bolt it to the Pulse and have a great time.
Just my opinion.
05-02-2008 | 11:06 PM
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Normally I would say get the 40 size plane and use the engine from your trainer. Since you want to keep the engine in your trainer though, I say go for the Pulse with the .75-AX. The engine is very user friendly, powerful and reliable. You should have an easy time with it and keep it around for many years. The Saito 100 is nice too (I own one) but maybe not for a second plane. Just my opinion.
Keeping the trainer together probably isn't a bad idea. You never know when you may feel like flying it again.
Keeping the trainer together probably isn't a bad idea. You never know when you may feel like flying it again.
05-02-2008 | 11:08 PM
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ORIGINAL: Blazer1
I am getting comfortable flying the kadet LT-40 and thinking about purchasing my second plane. I will continue to fly the Kadet until I am certain I am ready but would like to go ahead and buy my next plane to be ready just in case something bad happens. I am leaning towards two different planes and several different engines. This is a two part question, plane and engine. What combo do you like?
Ultra Stick 40 w/ Evolution .46 (cheap and I am comfortable with this engine, its on my trainer.)
w/ O.S. AX .55 ( a great engine, with plenty of power, but will it make much difference compared to the cheaper Evolution?)
w/ Saito .82 ( awesome sound and power, but the COST!!)
Pulse XT 60 w/ O.S. AX .75 ( from what I hear, should be a rocket!)
w/ Evolution .61 (just enough engine but a lot of savings, I am a little worried about the larger Evolution)
w/ Saito .82 (enough motor but for a little more you can get the .100 saito)
w/ Saito .100 ( power to spare, but pricey)
So what do you think? I know I will have to wait on ordering the Pulse 60 , but I am in know hurry. Is there a better plane and engine I have over looked? As long as it is not a 4 Star 40, great plane I know but not for me.
I am getting comfortable flying the kadet LT-40 and thinking about purchasing my second plane. I will continue to fly the Kadet until I am certain I am ready but would like to go ahead and buy my next plane to be ready just in case something bad happens. I am leaning towards two different planes and several different engines. This is a two part question, plane and engine. What combo do you like?
Ultra Stick 40 w/ Evolution .46 (cheap and I am comfortable with this engine, its on my trainer.)
w/ O.S. AX .55 ( a great engine, with plenty of power, but will it make much difference compared to the cheaper Evolution?)
w/ Saito .82 ( awesome sound and power, but the COST!!)
Pulse XT 60 w/ O.S. AX .75 ( from what I hear, should be a rocket!)
w/ Evolution .61 (just enough engine but a lot of savings, I am a little worried about the larger Evolution)
w/ Saito .82 (enough motor but for a little more you can get the .100 saito)
w/ Saito .100 ( power to spare, but pricey)
So what do you think? I know I will have to wait on ordering the Pulse 60 , but I am in know hurry. Is there a better plane and engine I have over looked? As long as it is not a 4 Star 40, great plane I know but not for me.
None of the Above. The Kadet LT-40 is about the easiest powered airplane to fly that can be found. Stepping big as you plan can result in real heart-burn. Who the _ell am I to say that? Well just a modeler that has been in power modeling for over 60 years and RC for 37 years. I have instructed since almost Day-One in RC, well before the buddy box existed. So just an old geezer that has been through some real heart-burns!! [
]Rather than a long diatribe about all the fancy stuff and all that power, let me suggest something to you. Learn to FLY a spirited but forgiving machine that is very easy to fly as low-wingers go, and can be a real ball.
The combinations are from the Super Tigre 45-51 or Thundertiger 40/46 Pro combined with either the World Models Sky-Raider or LA-40. http://www.airborne-models.com/html/...p?ProductID=91
Great flying machines and you will be in another world as compared to the Lt-40. Be like going from a pick-up truck to a Ferrari (sp??), You will have to learn to get ahead of either machine, because unlike the LT-40, they will not wait for you to make decisions.
These shown are for Club 40 racing so they are powered by ST .40s which is plenty. Good luck.
edited for typos. probably missed a few.
05-02-2008 | 11:50 PM
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Hossfly's advice is sage. Your second plane will be the plane that you will be learning to perform acrobatics with and pressing the envelope with regard to speed and whatnot. As such, second planes have rather short life expectancies.
A World Models Sky Raider Mach II, Super Sport 40, or LA Racer 40 ARF would be a wonderful and inexpensive sport plane with which to learn Cuban Eights, Immelmans, Split S, outside loops, wing overs, and a whole host of other stunts and manuevers. These planes can be well-powered by inexpensive engines and you could outfit a whole airplane including flight pack, airframe, and engine for about the cost of a Saito .82 engine.
It's nice to have an inexpensive sport flyer like this in your hangar in any event. Days will occur when you want to fly but crosswinds or 25 mph gusts will have you thinking twice about taking your pride and joy out to the flying field. A Sky Raider Mach II with a Magnum XLS .46A and Hitec flight pack in it is a great cure for this problem.
Check out the airframes at http://www.airborne-models.com before you make a final decision. You can always take your time and put that Pulse XT .60 together and fly it after you've gotten a chance to abuse your Sky Raider Mach II for a little while.
Good luck and good shopping
A World Models Sky Raider Mach II, Super Sport 40, or LA Racer 40 ARF would be a wonderful and inexpensive sport plane with which to learn Cuban Eights, Immelmans, Split S, outside loops, wing overs, and a whole host of other stunts and manuevers. These planes can be well-powered by inexpensive engines and you could outfit a whole airplane including flight pack, airframe, and engine for about the cost of a Saito .82 engine.
It's nice to have an inexpensive sport flyer like this in your hangar in any event. Days will occur when you want to fly but crosswinds or 25 mph gusts will have you thinking twice about taking your pride and joy out to the flying field. A Sky Raider Mach II with a Magnum XLS .46A and Hitec flight pack in it is a great cure for this problem.
Check out the airframes at http://www.airborne-models.com before you make a final decision. You can always take your time and put that Pulse XT .60 together and fly it after you've gotten a chance to abuse your Sky Raider Mach II for a little while.
Good luck and good shopping
05-03-2008 | 01:19 PM
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RE: Again, I would like some advice
Like Hossfly, I am an old geezer and have flown all kinds of planes. His advice is good. Another plane that is fun, aerobatic, yet extremely easy to fly, take off and land is the Kyosho Sport 40 (I powered mine with a TT 46Pro, lot of performance, but a less powerful engine would be O.K. too, as the plane is light with lots of wing area. Good luck. It is a great experience progressing in RC flying.
05-03-2008 | 07:07 PM
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Some pretty good advice above. Trying to jump to too much airplane too early will slow your learning. But the two designs you mentioned are pretty good designs for perhaps the third model or second if you have a good instructor. A good instructor keeps pushing you well past the point where you have soloed, for a year or two in more advanced models.
But before you give up on the LT-40, it's time for you to learn what it can really do when set up for advanced flying. This means moving the balance point to the rear of the CG range and working up to more control throw. When pushed to it's performance setup, the LT-40 will do inside and outside loops, fly inverted all day long, spin and do snap rolls. Once you can do these things and other combinations, you will be ready for the stik or Pulse.
But before you give up on the LT-40, it's time for you to learn what it can really do when set up for advanced flying. This means moving the balance point to the rear of the CG range and working up to more control throw. When pushed to it's performance setup, the LT-40 will do inside and outside loops, fly inverted all day long, spin and do snap rolls. Once you can do these things and other combinations, you will be ready for the stik or Pulse.
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RE: Again, I would like some advice
a scanner with a os46ax is a good 2nd plane with a very reliable motor which would give you many years of good service. and great flying
