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Old 06-11-2008 | 10:16 PM
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Nice job. One thought - don't gradually throttle up. Go ahead and move the stick right to 3/4 open throttle (some like full throttle, but you don't need it). No need to spend time on the ground waiting for speed to build up and leaving opportunity to do something wrong while taxiing at high speeds.
Old 06-12-2008 | 02:55 AM
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For my planes so far I jam them to full throttle so the only movements I can make are left and right on the Tx and not worrying about clicking throttle when I didnt want to or a false sense of how far Im pushing the rudder. If the throttles jammed forward at that point it can only go Left or right. Doesnt work for every plane but works on mine so far.
Old 06-12-2008 | 04:38 AM
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Wow, pulled it off, great especially if your trying all by yourself, its a continual learning experience, I did have some sailplanes tho many years back, the powered flight to even the Super Cub still had challenges, learned to maiden in zero winds, and overcontrol still occured, pulsing the stick at the start momentarily can help here, on ground launches quickly discovered with the Cub as a tail dragger to hold some up elevator only enough to get the tail up and she goes out straight long as the front wheels are aligned and even tucked in abit, after 30 to 50 feet easily takes off provided you don't over control, then straight out with gradual climb before any turns, its a winner of a plane, amazing so many newbies solo on this one so well, takes patience and persistance, wonderful plane, nice story...

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Old 06-12-2008 | 04:55 AM
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So you found an electric club near that development where you were flying.......... You're a newbie, right. Has anyone mentioned that our radios interfere with each other sometimes?

You really need to do something you mentioned already. Swing by that hobby shop and find out where all the club fields are. Then the best thing would be not fly near any of them, but go directly to them and ask to fly there. You need help from experienced flyers. The helicopter flyers should be able to point you to a fixed wing field at least. And they'd also be warned that there is a newbie flying anywhere he can find some open space. So they'll maybe be prepared when one of their helicopters goes out of control or they start getting hit on your frequency. And the electric flyers can probably help you too. BTW, they might have their field based on a promise to NOT have engine noise there. And the people they made that promise to won't have any idea who is making the noise.

Yeah, I know you probably, might, maybe weren't near other flyers, but you really didn't think about something you should have.

There are more reasons than you know for finding experienced modelers to help you.
Old 06-12-2008 | 05:10 AM
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A few years back, a couple of helicopter guys started flying at the elementary school that's just across the creek from my neighborhood. My neighborhood has at least 3 modelers in it who work on their models most evenings after work. Which is when those trespassers were flying next door. I call them trespassers because that's what the police called them. They didn't have permission to be on that property and certainly not to fly on it. So one evening when one of their choppers hit one of the expensive lights in the parking lot, the school principal asked the police to come by more often. And the police caught the guys a couple nights later. The guys claimed it wasn't their fault because the helicopter had gone crazy, no fault of theirs. One of the cops who responded to the tresspass at the school call flies R/C. We got the story from him.

The school took damage. The chopper guys took damage. At least one chopper took a lot of $$$ damage. And the hobby took some damage.

Beginners often don't know all the reasons for some things.
Old 06-12-2008 | 08:47 AM
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I don't jam the throttle. Part of the reason is that I fly pattern, and you'll get downgraded. Moving the throttle extremely slowly, however, doesn't work well either since you need speed to gain control authority (especially with conventional gear). The key is to move the throttle forward decisively, but don't jam. While you may get away with jamming the throttle on your first few models, more advanced aircraft (and larger aircraft) will not tolerate this practice.
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what Nathan says about jamming the throttle.... plus.............

The idea to get the takeoff over with as fast as possible to avoid problems has killed more models than just about everything else combined.

The propeller is "flying" way before the airplane flies. Very often, nothing on the airplane is flying yet when the "slam and pray" flyer pegs the stick. It takes airspeed for the rudder to have authority. The elevator has little effect at low speed and won't have full effect until the airspeed has come up. It takes almost no time for the engine to go to full power and the prop to have MAJOR effect. The airframe won't have full "power" until it's up to speed. And "slam and pray" and there is a good chance that won't happen before it's stuck into the ground.

Your engine and prop takes a second or two to be at full throttle. The airplane won't even be flying yet. The wing will be starting to lift some, which will lift the airplane off it's wheels. And the roll stability they could provide will be take away from you right then. The rudder probably isn't working yet, but the tail wheel or nose wheel won't be either. And the elevator/stab might have some prop blast that'll get them working better in a few seconds. Until the airplane starts flying, the engine kills the model without anything to stop it.
Old 06-12-2008 | 10:09 AM
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Yeah I should have been more clear - smoothly and deliberately, advance the throttle to 3/4, but not 'gradually', and not 'jamming' right to WOT either.
Old 06-12-2008 | 12:25 PM
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That's awesome! Self taught too. SWEEEET! I think you just broke every rule.

Take it slow, fly it high, and get an extra battery so you can have one on the charger.

The SC is a nice flier. It's just for puttin' around really, but it'll teach you everything you need to know.


I just have two words of advice:
#1 buy a low temp hot glue gun and a bunch of glue stick (you can fix almost anything)
#2 Super Cubs don't do outside loops. (refer to #1) [:@]

Have fun!

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