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Old 10-11-2008 | 12:55 PM
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I`ve been flying for a couple months now, my main outdoor plane is my trusty FlyZone Sky Fly and I`ve soloed on that and my parkzone ember, and I can fly both pretty well I have experiance with 4 channel planes though most of it is in simulators, however I feel quite confident with my skills and I`m not sure where to go from here, the Sky Fly is a beginner plane and the Ember is an intermediate but they`re both three channel, I`m not sure whether I should go to a low wing (not a aerobat or stunt plane) or a high wing trainer, I want to move up and I know that I can, I`m just not sure how fast to, basically, I want to know if I can save a few bucks and go directly to a low wing.
Old 10-11-2008 | 02:40 PM
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Personally, I'd go for a typical high wing trainer. While you do have some experience with RC flying, which will be extremely helpful, the planes you mentioned are not going to be the same as what you will be stepping up to.

On option might be to get a more "advanced" trainer. Something like the Hobbico Avistar or World Models Skyraider Mach-1 both have semi-symetrical airfoil and shallow dihedral. This makes them better at aerobatic maneuvers but they are still relatively gentle and forgiving.

I would also ask around at your local club and see what is popular there and what they recommend.

The bottom line is that there is nothing wrong with a high wing trainer. You'll likely even see a lot of experienced pilots at your club playing around with one from time to time.
Old 10-11-2008 | 03:12 PM
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I would go with a high wing trainer but one with a semi-symetrical wing like the Avistar.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXMU53**&P=0
It is still a trainer and very forgiving yet very capable of flying most aerobatics.
Old 10-11-2008 | 04:52 PM
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If you manage to swing by a local club on training night, you may be able to give a plane a flight and see how much you really have a handle on it using a club trainer. One or two flights, and you will have a much better idea. Also, someone there may have something used you could get interested in, you could save some real cash.
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Do you by chance have any knowledge of how the Hobbico Electristar handles?
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I want to move up and I know that I can, I`m just not sure how fast to, basically, I want to know if I can save a few bucks and go directly to a low wing.
If you know that you can move up, you got half the battle won.

Can you go directly to a low wing? You betcha. If you go to the right one, you'll be an odds on favorite to succeed.

The Tigers are excellent models. They also happen to be very, very good trainers. They just happen be low wing. Super Sportsters are very good. The new GP Cherokee is a very good low wing and looks less like just a model and more like a fullscale. Four Stars are good, but their wing construction is a bit damage prone (not full LE support). The Calmato Sport is as good as any of the above.

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Old 10-12-2008 | 09:01 AM
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Do you by chance have any knowledge of how the Hobbico Electristar handles?
The Electricstar is a good trainer and handles like a trainer, You should have no problem flying it.
It will be slow on rolls and not want to fly inverted without some work but it will be good practice for a more aerobatic plane.
Old 10-12-2008 | 12:58 PM
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This may start a controversy like on the "The P-51 PTS is NOT a good trainer" thread but would a slightly modified PTS with the reccomended 10 X 7 prop work, theres one down at my LHS on discount for $300
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ORIGINAL: drZoidBeRg365

This may start a controversy like on the "The P-51 PTS is NOT a good trainer" thread but would a slightly modified PTS with the reccomended 10 X 7 prop work, theres one down at my LHS on discount for $300

The P51 PTS would not be as good as most straight wing low wingers. It has a tapered wing and they naturally stall from the tips. Straight wings naturally stall from the root. It's why trainers (that deserve the name) do not have tapered wings. That P51 is a decent P51 model with all the "training aides" removed, but it's not as good a flyer as any of the straight wings mentioned so far. Why? Because when a tapered wing stalls (as sometimes happens to beginners learning to land) the plane rolls when it stalls and the loss in altitude is often appreciably quicker than when a straight wing stalls. Both sides of the tapered wing are equally apt to stall, but one will beat the other in almost every case. And when that happens the model also yaws. Forces at the tips (and loss of force at the tips) have more leverage than forces at the center of the wing. So you get more effect, more changes of direction, and it's quicker with a tapered wing. And that P51 has a tapered wing.
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ORIGINAL: drZoidBeRg365

This may start a controversy like on the "The P-51 PTS is NOT a good trainer" thread but would a slightly modified PTS with the reccomended 10 X 7 prop work, theres one down at my LHS on discount for $300
Then you already know how I feel about the PTS P-51.
You are already flying a couple of 3 channel electrics so in your situation I say:
IF you will be working with an instructor you may do well with the PTS.
IF you are just going to assemble it and go out and fly with no help get a traditional high wing trainer.
Old 10-12-2008 | 09:08 PM
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Sounds like I might be ending up with a Avistar or a Sky Raider Mach 1...

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