Ok well i crashed and burned my first plane (in my defense it was fast and i was flying in too small of an area) but even so i still got the hang before it smashed into the trunk of a tree breaking about every single concievable piece on the plane (i salvaged the motor and radio crystal, seriously)

Anyway, since then (about 2 years ago) iv gotten into a lot of Nitro RC car stuff and am pretty experieced with nitro engines and Im looking for an ARF that i can put a .05-.10 glow engine in. I really dont know what's out there. Im open to balsa kits, or anything, preferably 3 CH.

Im looking for something ullllltrra slow, essentially like a sail plane with a propellor.

One thing you'll find with glow planes, is that smaller does not really save you any money (except in fuel usage). In most engine lines, the .40 size engines are the cheapest, or just a few bucks more than the smaller engines.

Most people start out with .40 size trainers for a reason. They are the best bang for the buck, and they are easy to learn to fly. Just look at any of the popular .40 size trainers. There are some good deals on complete RTF packages out there.

Over in 1/2a forums a real popular combo is the Herr Extra arf $60 at tower and an OS .15la I fly that and it can be tamed down pretty well do you have a small engine now? a .10 would fly it also but the plane was designed around the norvel .074 which is a great engine , but its no longer made...and would just keep the plane in the air....Rog

If you want something small, just remember that wind conditions play a big factor on flying, larger planes tend to not be effected by the wind so much. But yes, smaller is cheaper, even the airframes are cheaper, the motors (somewhat) the recievers if using crystals, and the fuel usage. There are tons of guys in the 1/2 A fourm willing to help, I'm one of them, if you haven't flown in a long time, get a cloud ranger kit, and throw that together, don't be scared, it falls together with a little wood glue, CA and epoxy. 2 rolls of cheap light covering and the whole plane could be built for around 65 bucks, then just transfer the stuff to the lil' extra by herr, it actually handles small fields and flys in winds, I madiened mine in 15 MPH winds with gusts to 25 MPH. Not too shabby.

Im still leaning towards smaller but to make sure i know both sides of the coin,

What kind of .40 size trainer planes should i look at?

I apologize i would do this kind of research myself and normally do, but i've been strapped for time lately, so just looking for knowledge of the top of your folk's heads.

If it were me, and I wanted to start in .40 sized planes, I'd go with the eagle II arf and get a .56 saito or .62 saito, 2 strokes work too. If you go to small, follow what I said earlier and get the cloud ranger, it should take about 3 to 4 hours of real assembly, figure about 2 nights, and 2 nights for covering if you never covered before, 1/2 day if your acustomed to it. the rest is the same.

I agree with Planebuilder's choice with the Eagle 2. The kits are easy to build, I had one almost completely assembled except for the covering many years ago, having never had prior experience with RC. It's too bad I had to sell it. There is also the ARF version, which is the one I recommend. I like the fact that you get a real set of windows, rather than a decal, making the plane look very attractive. The Eagle is a slow, graceful flyer, on a par with Sig's Kadet Senior. Only difference: With the Eagle 2, you save over $100.00 and still get comparable performance!

If you were intending to stick with the smaller scale stuff, the Cloud Ranger would be the easiest to build and fly.

NorfolkSouthern

It really depends on how much up front work you want to do.
You would want to think building it yourself is cheaper but it isn't,
You can get a Tower Hobbies trainer ready to fly for $280, that includes everything for the plane, radio, servos engine ect..
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXCXF4**&P=0
You would still need field equipment, ie.. fuel, glow ignitor, fuel pump (manual or electric) starter (stick for hand starting or electric) and a 12v battery if you use the electric fuel pump and starter, and misc. tubing ect... or you can just buy a field box with all that stuff like I did.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXL419&P=ML

I imagine you have enough on hand for a field box if your into cars...one thing elf...dont use the car fuel, the oil content is too low it is anywhere from 12-18% and you need at least 20 for airplane engines...you can buy castor at tower (benol)...Rog

The only plane I could find that fits your original post is the Dynaflight Butterfly. It is a kit though.

With the extended wingspan it is a slow flyer, and 3 channels.

The goldberg eaglett is a great smaller trainer. I agree on the 40 size but if you just cant go that size, the eaglett fits the bill

For flying glow in small areas, I'd recommend you consider the Sig Lil' Rascal Nitro ARF and the Thunder Tiger GP-07 engine. Your original post mentioned an ARF in particular and the Lil Rascal would be quick to assemble. It should slow down nicely and be quite fun to fly. It is also available in a kit if you want to build, but it isn't required.

I reread the post and gotta agree with biged here...and I am building one now for a friend!..mine will have a Toki .05 in it and if thats not enough, I'll either go with a norvel .074 or add floats and put an OS .10LA in it....Rog

Since your original query stated super slow I have to second the Butterfly idea. However I had one and a 25 size motor balanced better in that plane. Any 2 meter glider will fly fine with an .05 to .10 motor. .049 to .15 size engines can be placed on the nose or in a power pod that fastens on under the wing rubber bands. There is an endless number of possiblilties Have fun.