I have never flown a RC airplane before, had little experience with helicopter..

I saw this video on this very cool jet. Let me clear few things here:

There are basically two kinds of jet right:

1. The really expensive turbine jet
2. The cheaper duct fan jet

I don't like those planes with blades, so I guess I'm up for a jet.

I know that Losi, HPI, AE, Traxxas are well known in RC cars, but how about airplanes...

I want to get a airplane with lots of part support..

Any information/recommendation for me??

Bad move. A "true" jet would be 99.9% failure rate as a first plane. Scratch $6,000 for every hard landing. A ducted fan electric that weighs more than five pounds maybe 60% failure rate (that is you fail to learn to fly and end up poorer and frustrated).

If you're doing it on your own especially.

If you must then get one of the foamie electric ducted fans. You can bang them around pretty good. But a jet of any type is a poor learning tool as they are "slippery" with little drag and tend to need to land much faster than you will be wanting to attempt, so you'll stall and crash. Prop trainers have a braking effect from the drag on an idling prop. It is considerable (and a good thing for a beginner AND experienced pilot).

DEFINATELY buy an airframe with lots of parts support as you'll be spending $100 weekly provided you get the parts FedExed and are ready to crash again the next Saturday.


Bad, bad idea. But that's just my opinion.

It all depends on your financial situation and tolerance for risk. If you don't mind risking thousands of dollars [and who knows how many man hours] for every tiny error in judgement with the way you set up the controls, tune the engine and fly the plane, go for it.
If you are successful learning the hobby this way, you will probably be the first anyone has heard of..............
.....well who knows, some Son of an oil rich Sultan could have mastered the sport after stuffing a few dozen RC jets?

Learn to like planes with 'blades'. Buy one try to get hands-on help with setup and flying.

Leanr to fly with one of these:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...rticle_id=1004

Then, move up to this:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=805

That's not bad at all Minn! Seems slow enough for a newbie too. Cool.

Sam,

whether you like prop planes or not, you have to start there. If you start with any kind of jet, you
will crash and burn, it's garanteed. Start with a high-trainer with an instructor and work up to a jet,
which would be your 3rd or 4th plane at the earliest.

MinnFlyer,

The Flyzone Diablo is one on the worst planes out there, as with all Flyzone products. Just search
for the Diablo in the threads and you'll see what I mean. The Diablo's design was a good idea, but
it didn't pan out...as with all Flyzones, too heavy and underpowered.

Hemicuda

I'll have to disagree, the Sky Fly pusher/glider does not like to land. Maybe it has too much power and not enough weight?

And another one gone, another one gone, another one bites the dust........

Bill, AMA 4720

In case you didn't know. The AMA requires you to have a turbine waiver to be covered under the membership insurance plan..to get your waiver you must be able to prove that you can control a turbine powered airplane..and then be signed off by another turbine pilot. now if you're an outlaw flyer (slang for someone that doesn't belong to the AMA, and doesn't have the AMA insurance) and something happens...it's all on you. alot of times when a turbine crashes, there is a fire. crash into a house and you're on your own.
Can you teach yourself to fly a turbine..I doubt it..you'll walk away from the hobby frustrated first

The Diablo is heavy and underpowered in its advanced configuration, but in the basic setup it is an excellent first airplane.

Ok, I might buy into that (trainer mode/wing) but most of what I've read says it's not too good.
I KNOW my FZ J-3 Cub is crap.[:@] Good luck to you

Hemicuda

Sam, if you wanted to learn to fly a real plane, would you start with a jet in the catagory that you are refering to here?

I don't think the original poster grasps the difficulty of model flight. I would advize samguan to visit a local club or local enthusiast and get a flight or two on a buddy box, if possible. Toronto, Ontario is densely populated, so I wouldn't think there would be a problem finding a club or shop.

I know many pilots who have flown for years that I would not consider capable of flying even the most basic turbine.

Take your time man! It took me 5 years of hard flying to even get to a ducted fan, I creeped into turbines and they are an amazing machine to build and fly but very $$$. Hone your skills and work up to it. I lost my first ducted fan on its first flight and it cost me $2500 and a lot of hours. I am now working on a plane that has been on the bench for a year and is sitting at around $14,000 invested, so the owner tells me. E-mail me if you have any questions, would be glad to answer them and help set you on the path of burning jet-A at over 200 mph!!!! Here are a couple pictures of the systems that are employed on a turbine aircraft! Good luck!

Chris

There is no way any first time flyer is going to be able to fly a Turbine, even a member the blue angels couldn`t fly a turbine on their first attempt. Considering the $5000+ price tag I think you might want to try something a little more down to earth. As for your dislike for prop planes, I reccomend you get over it, I don`t know how the Diablo handles but if its Glow planes you dislike then I`d reccomend you go with a electric (I personally love my Apprentice though you shouldn`t get one without the help of an instructor.) If you ever go on youtube you may have heard of RC superpowers, they have some good, electric beginner planes. Depending on what part of the country you`re in you may want a Vapor from Parkzone, those you can fly inside at anytime though just don`t try your luck outside.

I have to figure that the issue here is that you really don't understand aircraft, but do understand cars.

Generally you do not need spare parts for RC Airplanes- at least not the real ones. There are some planes that I would say fall more into the toy category than really aircraft (just my opinion) these generally have spare parts available.

Airplanes are not like cars, if you get into trouble you cannot just stop it, once you are in the air you are committed to land at some point in some way. Imagine learning on an RC Car that does 200 MPH, you have no idea how to control it, and the smallest mistake totals it, and your $5 K investment. The more complex the plane, the more difficult to fly, mistakes happen very fast in the air, even with a trainer doing 30 mph.

Not only do the more complex planes take more knowledge to fly, they take a ton of experience to build and get set up for flight. My best guess is that you would have real trouble just getting the plane started, if you were able to do that I doubt you would be able to get it in the air. Once in the air, the plane must be trimmed out - nope, you do not have the skills to do that yet, if you get it trimmed by some miracle you will have to control it, not easy at those speeds. Finally you have to get it set up and lined up to land, I would pay a fair bit of money to see a first time flying trying to get a jet on the ground in one piece, it will not happen.

If you don't like prop planes, start with one of those little park flyer toys, or suck it up and get the Hanger 9 F-22 PTS which in theory can be used to train, although I do not think it is a great idea either.

BTW - I hope you do not feel bad about all of the negative posts, I think it is pretty normal for guys to want to go right to the Jets, I remember I walked into a hobby shop when I was about 16 and saw a big jet, that was the one I wanted, it is natural, they are very cool. But you have to be pragmatic about this stuff "before man can fly he must first walk then run, man cannot fly into flight" (Nitche). You may be surprised how much of a rush you get the first time your trainer takes to the air.

Good luck and happy landings

Manks