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Old 03-12-2009 | 11:45 AM
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Here it is,

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=7894



My background. I have been flying helicopters for a litle over a year now ( Trex 500, 600 ) I can do forward flight and some loops. Just havent had time to fly much more. I also have a simulator and i mess around with planes on there as well. I used to own a gws slowstick but I got out if it as I didn't have a place to fly, but now i do, So here I am!


This plane seems amazingly priced, so I figured what the heck, maybe ill give it a go. all i need is to buy a 6100e for my dx7.


Should i buy this plane as a first plane given that I finally have a place to fly, and given my background of R/C will be able to support the flying?
Old 03-12-2009 | 11:52 AM
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Did you check shipping on it yet? Personally, I'd recommend getting a wild hawk. Though it may look like a piece of crap, it's indestructible. Not to mention, you can modify it any way you like. That's what I did. Took a boring plane and made it a lot of fun. It can take a hellva beating.

[link=http://www.nitroplanes.com/rtfwiha54el3.html]Wild Hawk[/link]
Old 03-12-2009 | 11:55 AM
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I have a pretty legitimate airfield with a bunch of experienced flyers. Its only electric though, and im planning on joining the club and to start going out there soon (weather permitting. So i figure my skills are already good enough I think to fly a basic airplane, I want a little more advance one for me to grow on.
Old 03-12-2009 | 12:42 PM
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any other ideas/suggestions?
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Figure that your first plane is likely to have to tolerate some hard times until you get the hang of landings, etc. The model you are looking at has lots of things to break. It's a nice looking model, however you might do well to get it and hold it off as as your "#2" plane, get something a bit more durable as "#1". Good luck.
Old 03-12-2009 | 01:51 PM
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If you were proficient with the Slow stick and can fly aileron planes on the Sim, you would probably be better off to get something that will keep your interest for a while and can use your radio. I would reccommend a Parkzone T-28 PNP. Its a tough but stable flying plane and lots of fun, lots of mods that can be done to keep it interesting like adding retracts. e-flite Apprentice would also be good but cost much more.
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I really like this model. You can see my video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmezNxyG11g
It flies fantastic, but I wouldnt recomend it as a first plane.
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ORIGINAL: marty55

any other ideas/suggestions?
I'll second that Wild Hawk suggestion.

Take a look at the videos of it and the hop-ups on ********.com web site.

Hopefully you'll change your mind. It's a great way into this hobby.

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The wild hawk seems to be an exact copy of multiplex easystar. Am I wrong here? If I`m not then get the wild hawk
Old 03-13-2009 | 12:44 AM
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Yeah, it's pretty much the easy star, except half the price, and you can pick it up at a harbor freight if you're near one.
Old 03-13-2009 | 06:09 AM
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Stay away from any Scale Planes, Warbirds or any high preformance planes. They are not forgiving and you don't have time to think, flying these planes require reaction more than thought.

A trainer will fly slower and will give you a little more time to think before you react on the controls... and is much more forgiving and a little easier to repair. R/C Ken has a list in this Forum what is a good trainer... I'd take his suggestions, he's been at this hobby way longer than me and knows what he's talking about.

It took me my second year before I flew my first Semi Scale Hanger 9 PTS RTF P-51. I had the trainer stuff removed and the plane kept me on my toes... it was fast and less forgiving than my Goldberg Eagle and Hobby Lobby Wing Dragon. I had the President of my Club give me a hand in the beggining, because he knew I was flying like a Drunk Flying Farmer. He kept me calm and stood behind me giving me support.

My 3rd plane was a Hanger 9 Piper Cub, now I'm into Warbirds and strictly scale. Give it a few years... solo at your club and fly the trainer for a couple of years... then you should be ready for that nice Cessna. We can't compare Helicopter with Planes... it's like comparing apples with oranges. I know... I fly both.

I've been flying for 6 years straight and I'll tell you the truth they're are some planes on the market I refuse to fly even at my skill. The Great Planes Gee Bee is a prime example. [X(]
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its a good plane, buy it and fly it, crash and rebuild..thats the cycle lol
Old 03-13-2009 | 09:18 AM
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Cessna 182 from hobbycity is way too heavy for its size and wingarea, and if it wasnt for the flaps it would have had a pretty high landing speed.
The stock brushless motor is very powerfull and is a perfect fit for the plane. But the "firewall" is extremely heavy and made from some heavy metal stuff, so you can replace it with a firwall/enginemount made from wood and then throw in a larger battery to get it to balance.
A very nice plane overall but definately not a good first plane.
Old 03-13-2009 | 09:59 AM
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Default RE: Is this a good first plane?

When you are beginning to fly R/C models, if you have to ask if it will be a good first plane, it's probably not.

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Old 03-13-2009 | 10:27 AM
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When you are beginning to fly R/C models, if you have to ask if it will be a good first plane, it's probably not.
Bill, AMA 4720
I was thinking the same thing and then I saw your reply. I started the hobby in 2001 but feel I'm still very much a beginner in many ways. I've flown a few non-beginner planes but only on the buddy box.
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Im just going to buy a more advanced plane. No point in wasting money, I can 3D helicopters which are way harder to fly, so a little plane will be fine, plus I have a sim!
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ORIGINAL: Murdoc

The wild hawk seems to be an exact copy of multiplex easystar. Am I wrong here? If I`m not then get the wild hawk


It's pretty close, but it is MUCH cheaper, comes with pretty much everything you need to get started, has an unbeatable price, and is easier to upgrade.

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Im just going to buy a more advanced plane. No point in wasting money, I can 3D helicopters which are way harder to fly, so a little plane will be fine, plus I have a sim!

Sorry to say that your "more advanced plane" is very likely to be a big waste of money.

Yes you are WAAAY ahead of the game because you fly helis, there is little doubt of that.

But it's still not the same as flying a plane nor is a plane like a heli.

Yes the plane is simpler and will indeed be very easy for you to pick up and learn.

You will advance quite quickly because of your experience... however there are many things you still need to pick up.

Don't get ahead of yourself.

See if your club has a training program, and if there they have club trainers you can use.

You can take one or two sessions using a club plane, and be ready for a low winged plane given your experience level... but you will still not be ready for say a warbird.

Your first plane can indeed be someone else's third plane this way however.

But for your first orientation flights you can use a club trainer. You will probably not need or want the trainers beyond that.

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ORIGINAL: marty55

Im just going to buy a more advanced plane. No point in wasting money, I can 3D helicopters which are way harder to fly, so a little plane will be fine, plus I have a sim!
I don't think you'll have a hard time with a plane that is a little more advanced than a trainer, but I would lean towards a plane that is built a little tougher than the Hobby City one you are considering.

I am a big fan of HC and buy a lot of motors and batteries from them, but I would probably not buy a plane from them. Like others have said, this plane has a lot of bits that can break. It is also a bit complicated with the flap setup and spring-loading landing gear. I buy things from HC knowing that it would be too expensive to return a defective product. I take my chances. If this plane arrives broken, you will either have to fix it yourself (maybe not too difficult), be out some return shipping, or eat the whole cost of the plane.

I'd lean towards a Horizon or Tower product where you know you will get great service, or something from your LHS.

Good luck
Old 03-13-2009 | 12:36 PM
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It's only 70 bucks, and when you get bored with it, pick up something more advanced. You really CAN NOT go wrong with this purchase. Or, buy the wild hawk and something else if you can afford it.
Old 03-13-2009 | 09:10 PM
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Actually I would vote for the Cessna. I have the parkflyers version and it is an easy to fly plane. The one in the first post has an outrunner brushless motor, set up for LiPo, already has flaps and ailerons, and steerable nose wheel. That should take off and land on pavement with no problem.

Just remember, fixed wing and rotory wing aircraft are not harder to fly than each other, just different.

While you are at it, don't forget to order a couple of battery packs, that is not included with the plane.

If you get the wild hawk, you will have problems going to a plane with ailerons.
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Not if you add ailerons when you're ready.

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