Do I worry too much?
04-01-2009 | 06:56 AM
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Do I worry too much?
Flew the typhoon last night. Had a friend hold it for hand launch. Was not as nervous as when I soloed it for the first time. First flight went really well. For the second flight, my friend had hos up in the air, so I held it with just a little over half throttle and let it go. took off nicely, but when it got accross the field it seemed like it just wanted to roll and roll. I was able to land it okay, a hard landing, but none the less landed it. The Typhoon is a 3d plane, and is very quick to repsond to control input. Which in this case I think it saved me from crashing. I didn't falter, I put it right back in the air and the third flight went much better. My friend held the plane for hand launch this time. I love the plane because it can go fast and slow. can almost just set it down gentle on the rear landing gear for landing. Anyway, the plane is actually meant for an intermediate to expert flyer, and I'm wondering if its just too much plane for me at the moment. My friend says I'm flying way better than he did when he first started. And the fact that I'm flying this plane so well, is a testament to that. But I worry that I'll crash everytime I take off. Friend says that every plane has a definate life expectancy and that I shouldn't worry about crashing so much. I know that eveytime I go up I learn something new, and that is what makes this hooby so great! But need to figure out away to destress about crashing and just fly!! If I crash I crash. So is he right? Do I worry too much? Should I just fly them like I stold them? I'm thinking my worries are normal, that the worry will pass with experience.
04-01-2009 | 07:08 AM
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RE: Do I worry too much?
Well, it's a little of both.
Should you be worried about crashing? No. Should you be CONCERNED about crashing? Yes.
The object of this game is to enjoy yourself. If you enjoy flying like you stole it, then expect to crash on a fairly regular basis - and start flying SPADs
If crashing distresses you, then you're not having as much fun, so fly something tamer, or fly your Typhoon in a more discrete manner.
Should you be worried about crashing? No. Should you be CONCERNED about crashing? Yes.
The object of this game is to enjoy yourself. If you enjoy flying like you stole it, then expect to crash on a fairly regular basis - and start flying SPADs
If crashing distresses you, then you're not having as much fun, so fly something tamer, or fly your Typhoon in a more discrete manner.
04-01-2009 | 07:28 AM
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RE: Do I worry too much?
Don't think it really distresses me, I would just like to fly comfortably. Just need to keep getting out as often as I can. Need to get a 2.4 with expo. The typhoon, just has high thro rates, even at low rate. With expo, I could tame it a little. I will get the hang of it, sooner or later. Just need stick time. going to move the servo leads to take out as much thro as I can and keep using the TX that came with the plane for the time being. Should help a little as well. I really enjoy it, and I'm still laughing when things start getting crazy. So I think I'm okay.
04-01-2009 | 07:30 AM
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Only been flying a year now, but the thing that's helped me the most to NOT stress about crashing has been..............crashing! I worried about it more than anything else until the first crash. Destroyed the plane. Didn't even bother picking up all the pieces. The ones I did pick up are in a drawer, and will make it back onto something some day. Once the crash was over, reality sunk in. Sooner or later another is going in, so why worry about it and cause it before it's time?
Thumbs still get shakey at times, but I tell everyone I'm just getting older. I know what the real cause is but I keep that one to myself! Anyway, have fun flying. That's the whole reason for what we do.
Thumbs still get shakey at times, but I tell everyone I'm just getting older. I know what the real cause is but I keep that one to myself! Anyway, have fun flying. That's the whole reason for what we do.
04-01-2009 | 07:32 AM
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Bill, you can always tame down the controls a tad bit to reduce the snappy feeling until you get it to fly as you wish it to fly all the time. Once you get comfortable begin to dial in more control surface activity and fly it that way. Do it a little at a time and get used to the way it feels and performs with each change.
I don't mean fly it once, then change it, no, fly it for a week or so, then change it, and fly it again for a week or so. Once you get to the max changes, you will have developed the feel for how much stick movement does what and fly it with more dexterity.
Do you recall the first time you tried to qualify with the handgun you first shot in the Marines? The instructor probably told you to carress the trigger and keep your eyes on the front sight. Trigger squeeze and sight picture. Think of the controls the same way. Get used to very subtle inputs, rather than jerky or sudden inputs. Carress the controls and move them very evenly and smoothly. This is easiest done with some expo in your transmitter.. if you are using a computer radio, that is. Put in about 30% of expo and get used to how soft the feel is and how the aircraft responds to those very small and smooth inputs.
Once airborne, let the plane fly, and don't try to correct every motion the plane makes, and it will on it's own, as wind moves it around a bit. Just trust that you have the trim set right and let it fly. This will do two things: 1. It will reduce the amount of battery you are consuming with over-control of the plane. 2. You will realize that the plane will indeed fly itself in a straight line (when properly trimmed) and you don't have to react to everything the plane does, which often leads to over-correction and, your series of rolls, perhaps?
Try it.
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I don't mean fly it once, then change it, no, fly it for a week or so, then change it, and fly it again for a week or so. Once you get to the max changes, you will have developed the feel for how much stick movement does what and fly it with more dexterity.
Do you recall the first time you tried to qualify with the handgun you first shot in the Marines? The instructor probably told you to carress the trigger and keep your eyes on the front sight. Trigger squeeze and sight picture. Think of the controls the same way. Get used to very subtle inputs, rather than jerky or sudden inputs. Carress the controls and move them very evenly and smoothly. This is easiest done with some expo in your transmitter.. if you are using a computer radio, that is. Put in about 30% of expo and get used to how soft the feel is and how the aircraft responds to those very small and smooth inputs.
Once airborne, let the plane fly, and don't try to correct every motion the plane makes, and it will on it's own, as wind moves it around a bit. Just trust that you have the trim set right and let it fly. This will do two things: 1. It will reduce the amount of battery you are consuming with over-control of the plane. 2. You will realize that the plane will indeed fly itself in a straight line (when properly trimmed) and you don't have to react to everything the plane does, which often leads to over-correction and, your series of rolls, perhaps?
Try it.
CGr.
04-01-2009 | 08:54 AM
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The Typoon is so tough, I doubt a crash would put it out of commission for very long. I and about 5 friends all have Typhoons. They are our combat planes. and we routinely intentionally try to take each other out of the air. I have succeeded in taking out 9 of my friends, but the record holder has 21 hits to his credit. IF one of us sustains damage, it is fixed very easily with a little 5 minute epoxy.
Don't sweat it. The Typhoon is tough!
Don't sweat it. The Typhoon is tough!
04-01-2009 | 09:35 AM
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The more you fly your plane, the less nervous you will become with it. You will get used to it and know what to expect, and how your plane reacts to things. You'll be OK. 
04-01-2009 | 09:36 AM
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RE: Do I worry too much?
Thanks all. I feel better now! HA! I know the typhoon is a tough plane. Right now it's balanced perfect level, may add one more weight to the nose. that might help a little too. The plane loves to fly. I really think I'll learn alot from it. If I can get in control with it, my others will be extremely easy to fly. I tend to over steer as well, need to learn to go easy on the sticks. lots to learn! But that's what it's all about. Will get out to a field as much as I can. The Typhoon makes that easy enough too. We were flying at a local school soccer field last night. And there's always the back yard.
04-01-2009 | 09:44 AM
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Thanks all. I feel better now! HA! I know the typhoon is a tough plane. Right now it's balanced perfect level, may add one more weight to the nose. that might help a little too. The plane loves to fly. I really think I'll learn alot from it. If I can get in control with it, my others will be extremely easy to fly. I tend to over steer as well, need to learn to go easy on the sticks. lots to learn! But that's what it's all about. Will get out to a field as much as I can. The Typhoon makes that easy enough too. We were flying at a local school soccer field last night. And there's always the back yard.
Thanks all. I feel better now! HA! I know the typhoon is a tough plane. Right now it's balanced perfect level, may add one more weight to the nose. that might help a little too. The plane loves to fly. I really think I'll learn alot from it. If I can get in control with it, my others will be extremely easy to fly. I tend to over steer as well, need to learn to go easy on the sticks. lots to learn! But that's what it's all about. Will get out to a field as much as I can. The Typhoon makes that easy enough too. We were flying at a local school soccer field last night. And there's always the back yard.
Flying R/C is addictive. Treat her like a lady... make your turns smooth. If you want to try somthing hairy or new, don't forget that altitude is your friend.
04-01-2009 | 09:59 AM
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Bill, you can always tame down the controls a tad bit to reduce the snappy feeling until you get it to fly as you wish it to fly all the time. Once you get comfortable begin to dial in more control surface activity and fly it that way. Do it a little at a time and get used to the way it feels and performs with each change.
I don't mean fly it once, then change it, no, fly it for a week or so, then change it, and fly it again for a week or so. Once you get to the max changes, you will have developed the feel for how much stick movement does what and fly it with more dexterity.
Do you recall the first time you tried to qualify with the handgun you first shot in the Marines? The instructor probably told you to carress the trigger and keep your eyes on the front sight. Trigger squeeze and sight picture. Think of the controls the same way. Get used to very subtle inputs, rather than jerky or sudden inputs. Carress the controls and move them very evenly and smoothly. This is easiest done with some expo in your transmitter.. if you are using a computer radio, that is. Put in about 30% of expo and get used to how soft the feel is and how the aircraft responds to those very small and smooth inputs.
Once airborne, let the plane fly, and don't try to correct every motion the plane makes, and it will on it's own, as wind moves it around a bit. Just trust that you have the trim set right and let it fly. This will do two things: 1. It will reduce the amount of battery you are consuming with over-control of the plane. 2. You will realize that the plane will indeed fly itself in a straight line (when properly trimmed) and you don't have to react to everything the plane does, which often leads to over-correction and, your series of rolls, perhaps?
Try it.
CGr.
Bill, you can always tame down the controls a tad bit to reduce the snappy feeling until you get it to fly as you wish it to fly all the time. Once you get comfortable begin to dial in more control surface activity and fly it that way. Do it a little at a time and get used to the way it feels and performs with each change.
I don't mean fly it once, then change it, no, fly it for a week or so, then change it, and fly it again for a week or so. Once you get to the max changes, you will have developed the feel for how much stick movement does what and fly it with more dexterity.
Do you recall the first time you tried to qualify with the handgun you first shot in the Marines? The instructor probably told you to carress the trigger and keep your eyes on the front sight. Trigger squeeze and sight picture. Think of the controls the same way. Get used to very subtle inputs, rather than jerky or sudden inputs. Carress the controls and move them very evenly and smoothly. This is easiest done with some expo in your transmitter.. if you are using a computer radio, that is. Put in about 30% of expo and get used to how soft the feel is and how the aircraft responds to those very small and smooth inputs.
Once airborne, let the plane fly, and don't try to correct every motion the plane makes, and it will on it's own, as wind moves it around a bit. Just trust that you have the trim set right and let it fly. This will do two things: 1. It will reduce the amount of battery you are consuming with over-control of the plane. 2. You will realize that the plane will indeed fly itself in a straight line (when properly trimmed) and you don't have to react to everything the plane does, which often leads to over-correction and, your series of rolls, perhaps?
Try it.
CGr.
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04-01-2009 | 10:26 AM
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Thanks all. I feel better now! HA! I know the typhoon is a tough plane. Right now it's balanced perfect level, may add one more weight to the nose. that might help a little too. The plane loves to fly. I really think I'll learn alot from it. If I can get in control with it, my others will be extremely easy to fly. I tend to over steer as well, need to learn to go easy on the sticks. lots to learn! But that's what it's all about. Will get out to a field as much as I can. The Typhoon makes that easy enough too. We were flying at a local school soccer field last night. And there's always the back yard.
Thanks all. I feel better now! HA! I know the typhoon is a tough plane. Right now it's balanced perfect level, may add one more weight to the nose. that might help a little too. The plane loves to fly. I really think I'll learn alot from it. If I can get in control with it, my others will be extremely easy to fly. I tend to over steer as well, need to learn to go easy on the sticks. lots to learn! But that's what it's all about. Will get out to a field as much as I can. The Typhoon makes that easy enough too. We were flying at a local school soccer field last night. And there's always the back yard.
04-01-2009 | 12:32 PM
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RE: Do I worry too much?
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Try taming your throws down. If your radio has expo, it is a godsend on a plane like the Typhoon.
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Thanks all. I feel better now! HA! I know the typhoon is a tough plane. Right now it's balanced perfect level, may add one more weight to the nose. that might help a little too. The plane loves to fly. I really think I'll learn alot from it. If I can get in control with it, my others will be extremely easy to fly. I tend to over steer as well, need to learn to go easy on the sticks. lots to learn! But that's what it's all about. Will get out to a field as much as I can. The Typhoon makes that easy enough too. We were flying at a local school soccer field last night. And there's always the back yard.
Thanks all. I feel better now! HA! I know the typhoon is a tough plane. Right now it's balanced perfect level, may add one more weight to the nose. that might help a little too. The plane loves to fly. I really think I'll learn alot from it. If I can get in control with it, my others will be extremely easy to fly. I tend to over steer as well, need to learn to go easy on the sticks. lots to learn! But that's what it's all about. Will get out to a field as much as I can. The Typhoon makes that easy enough too. We were flying at a local school soccer field last night. And there's always the back yard.
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RE: Do I worry too much?
I would recommend swapping out the radio immediatly. The Typhoon with the stock radio is hyper twitchy. I had the same experience and after switching out the receiver and throwing in 40% expo, it's a blast to fly.
I fly a Mojo 40, Primo 15, and other profiles. I use expo on all of them. With control surfaces that large, you need to smooth things out.
I fly a Mojo 40, Primo 15, and other profiles. I use expo on all of them. With control surfaces that large, you need to smooth things out.
04-01-2009 | 03:31 PM
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RE: Do I worry too much?
There is a way to tame any RC plane by changing the position of the control rods at the little holes at the control horn or at the servo arm, which ever could be easier.
If doing so at the control horn, use the hole that is far from the control surface. If you choose to do it at the servo arm, the use a hole which is close to the center of the arm.
The you will have to level the control surfaces again and trim at flight.
If doing so at the control horn, use the hole that is far from the control surface. If you choose to do it at the servo arm, the use a hole which is close to the center of the arm.
The you will have to level the control surfaces again and trim at flight.
04-01-2009 | 03:58 PM
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The expo button is to activate accessories like the combat module, drop module, or nite module. There is a port on the rx for plugging the accessory in. The stock radio really is a P.O.S., upgrade it as soon as you can. The rx out of your extra easy or another plane will work just fine in it.
04-01-2009 | 04:27 PM
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The expo button is to activate accessories like the combat module, drop module, or nite module. There is a port on the rx for plugging the accessory in. The stock radio really is a P.O.S., upgrade it as soon as you can. The rx out of your extra easy or another plane will work just fine in it.
The expo button is to activate accessories like the combat module, drop module, or nite module. There is a port on the rx for plugging the accessory in. The stock radio really is a P.O.S., upgrade it as soon as you can. The rx out of your extra easy or another plane will work just fine in it.
04-03-2009 | 12:53 PM
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Hello billd; I have been keeping up with your thread, and have decided to add my experiences to the stew. In '05 (I think) I took my Motorcycle to visit my daughter, about a thousand miles away. When I got there it turned out that I might be staying for a month, and having not brought any planes along, I went down to the local hobby shop and bought a Typhoon to fly and leave there when I left.
I flew it like i borrowed it and had a great time with it. I flew it in little parks, ball diamonds, soccor fields. Quite often local kids would pedal their bike over to see what was happening. I didn't have any trouble keeping the plane close, and could put it down fast if I had to. I warned the kids that I might not be able to keep the plane from hitting them and that they should be ready to duck or dodge if it gets close. They went back to their bikes and put their helmets on and sat and watched.
In '06 I drove the cruiser there, so I picked the Typhoon up and have been flying it, on and off, since then. AOne day when it was windy, I decided to try it anyway, as soon as I got above tree top level, it just got swept away. Full throttle against the wind would only slow it down and not get it back. I had to dive for the ground where the wind was less severe, but by the time I made the decision, the plane had drifted over some nearby woods. By this time I was thinking that I would like to get the servos back if I could, so I dived it for the ground.
When I found it, it was skewered on a dry limb, in a small clearing in the woods, at about eye level. AI bent the limb down and pulled it off. The damage was only covering material punctured through the left wing between teh ribs. I felt lucky just to find it let alone find it in such great shape. That has to be the toughest test I could imagine.
I'm not happy with the way the Typhoon flies either, but I can live with the snappy-ness. What I don't like is that it doesn't like to fly on the wing at all. I like to do close - to stall stuff with bigger planes, and the Typhoon just doesn't do that well. I guess I'm not a 3D guy, but I never could get it to hover without rolling, that's when the rudder gets confusing. I have a foamy GeeBee that hovers great, so I don't think it's me.
I would say that all you need is stick time. I have stuck with the goofy radio that came with it and it's still lots of fun to fly. I don't fly it when it's gusty, it's confusing enough on a calm day.
I flew it like i borrowed it and had a great time with it. I flew it in little parks, ball diamonds, soccor fields. Quite often local kids would pedal their bike over to see what was happening. I didn't have any trouble keeping the plane close, and could put it down fast if I had to. I warned the kids that I might not be able to keep the plane from hitting them and that they should be ready to duck or dodge if it gets close. They went back to their bikes and put their helmets on and sat and watched.
In '06 I drove the cruiser there, so I picked the Typhoon up and have been flying it, on and off, since then. AOne day when it was windy, I decided to try it anyway, as soon as I got above tree top level, it just got swept away. Full throttle against the wind would only slow it down and not get it back. I had to dive for the ground where the wind was less severe, but by the time I made the decision, the plane had drifted over some nearby woods. By this time I was thinking that I would like to get the servos back if I could, so I dived it for the ground.
When I found it, it was skewered on a dry limb, in a small clearing in the woods, at about eye level. AI bent the limb down and pulled it off. The damage was only covering material punctured through the left wing between teh ribs. I felt lucky just to find it let alone find it in such great shape. That has to be the toughest test I could imagine.
I'm not happy with the way the Typhoon flies either, but I can live with the snappy-ness. What I don't like is that it doesn't like to fly on the wing at all. I like to do close - to stall stuff with bigger planes, and the Typhoon just doesn't do that well. I guess I'm not a 3D guy, but I never could get it to hover without rolling, that's when the rudder gets confusing. I have a foamy GeeBee that hovers great, so I don't think it's me.
I would say that all you need is stick time. I have stuck with the goofy radio that came with it and it's still lots of fun to fly. I don't fly it when it's gusty, it's confusing enough on a calm day.
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Hello billd; I have been keeping up with your thread, and have decided to add my experiences to the stew. In '05 (I think) I took my Motorcycle to visit my daughter, about a thousand miles away. When I got there it turned out that I might be staying for a month, and having not brought any planes along, I went down to the local hobby shop and bought a Typhoon to fly and leave there when I left.
I flew it like i borrowed it and had a great time with it. I flew it in little parks, ball diamonds, soccor fields. Quite often local kids would pedal their bike over to see what was happening. I didn't have any trouble keeping the plane close, and could put it down fast if I had to. I warned the kids that I might not be able to keep the plane from hitting them and that they should be ready to duck or dodge if it gets close. They went back to their bikes and put their helmets on and sat and watched.
In '06 I drove the cruiser there, so I picked the Typhoon up and have been flying it, on and off, since then. AOne day when it was windy, I decided to try it anyway, as soon as I got above tree top level, it just got swept away. Full throttle against the wind would only slow it down and not get it back. I had to dive for the ground where the wind was less severe, but by the time I made the decision, the plane had drifted over some nearby woods. By this time I was thinking that I would like to get the servos back if I could, so I dived it for the ground.
When I found it, it was skewered on a dry limb, in a small clearing in the woods, at about eye level. AI bent the limb down and pulled it off. The damage was only covering material punctured through the left wing between teh ribs. I felt lucky just to find it let alone find it in such great shape. That has to be the toughest test I could imagine.
I'm not happy with the way the Typhoon flies either, but I can live with the snappy-ness. What I don't like is that it doesn't like to fly on the wing at all. I like to do close - to stall stuff with bigger planes, and the Typhoon just doesn't do that well. I guess I'm not a 3D guy, but I never could get it to hover without rolling, that's when the rudder gets confusing. I have a foamy GeeBee that hovers great, so I don't think it's me.
I would say that all you need is stick time. I have stuck with the goofy radio that came with it and it's still lots of fun to fly. I don't fly it when it's gusty, it's confusing enough on a calm day.
Hello billd; I have been keeping up with your thread, and have decided to add my experiences to the stew. In '05 (I think) I took my Motorcycle to visit my daughter, about a thousand miles away. When I got there it turned out that I might be staying for a month, and having not brought any planes along, I went down to the local hobby shop and bought a Typhoon to fly and leave there when I left.
I flew it like i borrowed it and had a great time with it. I flew it in little parks, ball diamonds, soccor fields. Quite often local kids would pedal their bike over to see what was happening. I didn't have any trouble keeping the plane close, and could put it down fast if I had to. I warned the kids that I might not be able to keep the plane from hitting them and that they should be ready to duck or dodge if it gets close. They went back to their bikes and put their helmets on and sat and watched.
In '06 I drove the cruiser there, so I picked the Typhoon up and have been flying it, on and off, since then. AOne day when it was windy, I decided to try it anyway, as soon as I got above tree top level, it just got swept away. Full throttle against the wind would only slow it down and not get it back. I had to dive for the ground where the wind was less severe, but by the time I made the decision, the plane had drifted over some nearby woods. By this time I was thinking that I would like to get the servos back if I could, so I dived it for the ground.
When I found it, it was skewered on a dry limb, in a small clearing in the woods, at about eye level. AI bent the limb down and pulled it off. The damage was only covering material punctured through the left wing between teh ribs. I felt lucky just to find it let alone find it in such great shape. That has to be the toughest test I could imagine.
I'm not happy with the way the Typhoon flies either, but I can live with the snappy-ness. What I don't like is that it doesn't like to fly on the wing at all. I like to do close - to stall stuff with bigger planes, and the Typhoon just doesn't do that well. I guess I'm not a 3D guy, but I never could get it to hover without rolling, that's when the rudder gets confusing. I have a foamy GeeBee that hovers great, so I don't think it's me.
I would say that all you need is stick time. I have stuck with the goofy radio that came with it and it's still lots of fun to fly. I don't fly it when it's gusty, it's confusing enough on a calm day.
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RE: Do I worry too much?
Your experience with the typhoon is similar to my experience with the F4U. This is my first foamie electric as I have always flown nitro pylon and pattern aircraft. The extra weight and thrust makes the ultra light foamies behave in a completely different manner. Little gusts make it buck like a bronco while the same thing with the heavyweights go unnoticed, they have a tendency to float on landing and stick movement is much more responsive and you have to learn to be very gentle. Throttle response is faster and has to be used carefully. Once you get used to these little things you can throw it around the skies with wild abandon.
Guy
Guy
