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<span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: larger">Hi new here.
I was into RC planes many years ago (35 or so) and thought I would give it another try. I don't know if I have the feel for it anymore but I am going to try.
I found a guy that lost interest after a couple of crashes and I bought all his gear from him pretty cheap. $300 I thought was cheap anyway.
I got a NexStar (68") and a Tower Hobbies 40 Trainer. The radios all charge and function properly. I got a field battery and charger that both work, 2 each12v spinner starters, lots of extra props and 3 nose cones (new), a new and unused CG stand, some monokote and an iron, a glow plug igniter,fuel pumpand many other little things.
I have to do some minor repairs on the wings and replace some missing aileron rods and such and buy some fuel and test run the motors. For the most part, other than some minor crash damages and the missing parts which were most likely damaged and thrown away, it appears this stuff is all less than 2 years old, or less.
Then it will be time to live up to my sign in name.
KrashKart!</span></span></span>
I was into RC planes many years ago (35 or so) and thought I would give it another try. I don't know if I have the feel for it anymore but I am going to try.
I found a guy that lost interest after a couple of crashes and I bought all his gear from him pretty cheap. $300 I thought was cheap anyway.
I got a NexStar (68") and a Tower Hobbies 40 Trainer. The radios all charge and function properly. I got a field battery and charger that both work, 2 each12v spinner starters, lots of extra props and 3 nose cones (new), a new and unused CG stand, some monokote and an iron, a glow plug igniter,fuel pumpand many other little things.
I have to do some minor repairs on the wings and replace some missing aileron rods and such and buy some fuel and test run the motors. For the most part, other than some minor crash damages and the missing parts which were most likely damaged and thrown away, it appears this stuff is all less than 2 years old, or less.
Then it will be time to live up to my sign in name.
KrashKart!</span></span></span>
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<span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: larger">Yes I will work on that. There is a brand new club forming not to far away. They are just starting work on the facility.
I have join them and the AMA to use the field of course. But I have repairs to do first too.</span></span></span>
I have join them and the AMA to use the field of course. But I have repairs to do first too.</span></span></span>
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KrashKart,
Welcome to RCU, and welcome back to the hobby. Please by all means ask any and all questions you might have. We are here to help in any way possible. And please keep up posted on your progress
I see from your user data you are from Prescott, Az. I lived there quite a few years ago (close to 35 years or so). We lived not far from Taylor Hicks Elementary School, and my dad worked for the Forest Service there. I miss it as it was a really pretty place to live, from what I remember (I was in the 5th and 6th grade then)
Once again, welcome to RCU.
Ken
Welcome to RCU, and welcome back to the hobby. Please by all means ask any and all questions you might have. We are here to help in any way possible. And please keep up posted on your progress
I see from your user data you are from Prescott, Az. I lived there quite a few years ago (close to 35 years or so). We lived not far from Taylor Hicks Elementary School, and my dad worked for the Forest Service there. I miss it as it was a really pretty place to live, from what I remember (I was in the 5th and 6th grade then)
Once again, welcome to RCU.
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<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: larger">I have already been to Valley. I was hoping to buy something but the inventory was very low due to the new move.
If anyone reading this does not know and is from this area as of Monday they will be over in the Safeway plaza.
I am going to wait until they get moved and get some more stuff in to go get some parts to fix what I have and some fuel to test run the motors.
I am sure they will have enough to do the first few days they are in the new location and I have to help my kids move up here from Phoenix to time will be limited.
But I am retired so time is available most of the time.
And RCKen, my wife was the BMO on Coronado before she retired. We both worked for DoD for many years. I took early retirement when our base closed in CA and she went to WA and then to AZ (she was born in Tombstone) so she is back home. I married her a lot of years ago when I was here with the Army a lifetime ago.
But we wanted 4 seasons instead of just hot in the valley so here we are!
We live on the South end of town just before you leave it on HWY 89.</span></span>
If anyone reading this does not know and is from this area as of Monday they will be over in the Safeway plaza.
I am going to wait until they get moved and get some more stuff in to go get some parts to fix what I have and some fuel to test run the motors.
I am sure they will have enough to do the first few days they are in the new location and I have to help my kids move up here from Phoenix to time will be limited.
But I am retired so time is available most of the time.
And RCKen, my wife was the BMO on Coronado before she retired. We both worked for DoD for many years. I took early retirement when our base closed in CA and she went to WA and then to AZ (she was born in Tombstone) so she is back home. I married her a lot of years ago when I was here with the Army a lifetime ago.
But we wanted 4 seasons instead of just hot in the valley so here we are!
We live on the South end of town just before you leave it on HWY 89.</span></span>
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Ditto.. ditto. You will find all sorts of people here willing and able to help. Some times you have to sift through the information because there are often varying opinions in replies to questions and situations presented here. But, don't be afraid to ask. As usual, the only "stupid" question is often the one that was not asked.
Welcome aboard!!
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Welcome aboard!!
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<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: larger">OK, I have now accessed the parts I will need to mainly repair the wing of each aircraft.
Question for NexStar owners as a beginner, again. Do you really need the speed brakes? One on them is broken, it's ABS and I am not sure it will repair. I am thinking this is a factory item and I would hate to have to place and order for just that when I know everything else I need is local.
I need to hit the hobby store and get some parts. I need aileron control rods for both planes as 3 are missing and the related parts to go with them. I am not sure why. I will just have to make them but that's just part of it.
Also, The monokote needs repair on the one. It has a hole on the top of the wing. I think it would fly without repair but I thought I would patch it. I will assume I just patch it with an overlay?
This stuff came with monokote for repairs and an iron but I don't think I have ever used this stuff.
Is the iron all I need or do I need a heat gun?
It appears that I could have these planes in the air if I had the parts and such and the motors are OK in less than a day if I wanted to but I am not going to rush things.
Thanks in advance.</span></span>
Question for NexStar owners as a beginner, again. Do you really need the speed brakes? One on them is broken, it's ABS and I am not sure it will repair. I am thinking this is a factory item and I would hate to have to place and order for just that when I know everything else I need is local.
I need to hit the hobby store and get some parts. I need aileron control rods for both planes as 3 are missing and the related parts to go with them. I am not sure why. I will just have to make them but that's just part of it.
Also, The monokote needs repair on the one. It has a hole on the top of the wing. I think it would fly without repair but I thought I would patch it. I will assume I just patch it with an overlay?
This stuff came with monokote for repairs and an iron but I don't think I have ever used this stuff.
Is the iron all I need or do I need a heat gun?
It appears that I could have these planes in the air if I had the parts and such and the motors are OK in less than a day if I wanted to but I am not going to rush things.
Thanks in advance.</span></span>
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Ken in this case I would advise aginst using those drag flaps as well as the wing cuffs, as they are actually counter productive in my opinon. I also would advise aginst the electronic wing leveler.
But do find a mentor to help you out testing the airplane and guideing you on your first flights. A mentor will be the key to your success.
John
But do find a mentor to help you out testing the airplane and guideing you on your first flights. A mentor will be the key to your success.
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I agree with JohnBuckner, with one addition. Remove the AFS as well. IMHO those are gimmicks used to sell planes and not really helpful or needed for the trainer to successfully train a student. Simply take them off and fly the trainer without them.
Ken
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<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: larger">OK, I was not sure about the brakes. What's the wing cuff? That thing on the leading edge of the wing on the NexStar? It appears to be glued.
I thought I would just unplug that stabilizer. That will disable it OK. I have some experience and I don't need something fighting my control attempts.
Any advise on the monokote repairs as to what I need?</span></span>
I thought I would just unplug that stabilizer. That will disable it OK. I have some experience and I don't need something fighting my control attempts.
Any advise on the monokote repairs as to what I need?</span></span>
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Yup its those 'things' on the leading edges. They were intended to be removable and attached with tape or perhaps double face tape. Hope no one glues them.
The best way to learn doing film coverings is to watch someone doing it. There are some good vidios for this somewhere. Perhaps someone will post a link. I frequently have someone from the field follow me home to watch that as well a some other building techniques. Network you locals starting with the Pacini's and you will surely get good help.
I am about two hours from you but I don,t travel well anymore but fly virtually every day. So if you want ever come this way I will be pleased to help with the flying and getting you back in the air.
John
The best way to learn doing film coverings is to watch someone doing it. There are some good vidios for this somewhere. Perhaps someone will post a link. I frequently have someone from the field follow me home to watch that as well a some other building techniques. Network you locals starting with the Pacini's and you will surely get good help.
I am about two hours from you but I don,t travel well anymore but fly virtually every day. So if you want ever come this way I will be pleased to help with the flying and getting you back in the air.
John
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The best way to learn doing film coverings is to watch someone doing it. There are some good vidios for this somewhere. Perhaps someone will post a link.
The best way to learn doing film coverings is to watch someone doing it. There are some good vidios for this somewhere. Perhaps someone will post a link.
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RCU member MinnFlyer has done some great how-to articles and videos on covering. check them out as they will go a long way to getting you started.</p>
Minnflyer Covering how-to</p>
Minnflyer, Another Look at Covering</p></font>
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<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: larger">TNX for the offer but I don't travel much either nowadays.
I googled applying monokote and it appears pretty simple to me. I do have the iron but no heat gun to shrink it but I could buy one easy enough.
It just appears to me at this point that short of maybea few dollars for parts and fuel and maybe 1/2 day of workI can have these planes air worthy again.
The guy that had they told me he only flew them 2-3 times each. It obvious he did crash with them by the wing and such but that is life.
Let us all hope he is better at his day job. He is a commercial pilot!
Hey, and thanks for the links to the covering too!</span></span>
I googled applying monokote and it appears pretty simple to me. I do have the iron but no heat gun to shrink it but I could buy one easy enough.
It just appears to me at this point that short of maybea few dollars for parts and fuel and maybe 1/2 day of workI can have these planes air worthy again.
The guy that had they told me he only flew them 2-3 times each. It obvious he did crash with them by the wing and such but that is life.
Let us all hope he is better at his day job. He is a commercial pilot!
Hey, and thanks for the links to the covering too!</span></span>
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. It obvious he did crash with them by the wing and such but that is life.
Let us all hope he is better at his day job. He is a commercial pilot!
Hey, and thanks for the links to the covering too!</span></span>
. It obvious he did crash with them by the wing and such but that is life.
Let us all hope he is better at his day job. He is a commercial pilot!
Hey, and thanks for the links to the covering too!</span></span>
There you go Minnflier came through with the links and they are good ones. I would rather start someone with no full scale experiance anytime. Much easier for me.
Full scale flyers typically seem to take longer to acheve the skills. While the aerodynamics are the same the way in which RC is flown is very different requiring full scalers to retrain in all the basics. On occassion some full scalers come with an 'attitude' thats is counter productive to their goals. I also am a retired full scaler and long time instructor in both fixed and rotor wing.
I think you will find lots folks that work in various aviation disciplines also are modelers.
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<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: larger">And that's why I am coming back to the hobby. I would like to build someday, perhaps from scratch. I don't have the room right now in my rental but we are considering moving within the year for more room and my other hobby of ham radio. Just too many other things going on and we need more room.
All I did before, in the early 70's was build combat style aircraft. A group I fell into bought cheaper models and modified them into high performance planes with larger engines than they should have had.
We made many mistakes but it was fun learning at the time. I only built two of them myself. The first one I destroyed really bad the first time out. I got off the ground just fine, took it easy and then started to play around and lost orientation and panicked and the rest was history.
The second lasted about 12 or so flights until I was hit by another aircraft as he attempted to cutmy streamer. Both planes were destroyed and this time my receiver was broken and not repairable. And it was rather hard to damage too. It was a "Kraft" RC system and it had the one peice "brick" which was kind of hard to damage. But with what we were doing, it was to be expected.
So I gave up and quit. I thought I was spending too much money on it at the time. Newly married and much better uses for money.
So this time I learn to take it easy and try to fly easy.
Maybe someday I will get into electric flight or even mod what I have now for it. I saw a guy fly an Ascent electric glider or sail plane once too and it's looked interesting having the combo electric powered flight and sail abilities too.</span></span>
All I did before, in the early 70's was build combat style aircraft. A group I fell into bought cheaper models and modified them into high performance planes with larger engines than they should have had.
We made many mistakes but it was fun learning at the time. I only built two of them myself. The first one I destroyed really bad the first time out. I got off the ground just fine, took it easy and then started to play around and lost orientation and panicked and the rest was history.
The second lasted about 12 or so flights until I was hit by another aircraft as he attempted to cutmy streamer. Both planes were destroyed and this time my receiver was broken and not repairable. And it was rather hard to damage too. It was a "Kraft" RC system and it had the one peice "brick" which was kind of hard to damage. But with what we were doing, it was to be expected.
So I gave up and quit. I thought I was spending too much money on it at the time. Newly married and much better uses for money.
So this time I learn to take it easy and try to fly easy.
Maybe someday I will get into electric flight or even mod what I have now for it. I saw a guy fly an Ascent electric glider or sail plane once too and it's looked interesting having the combo electric powered flight and sail abilities too.</span></span>




