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TruBlu02 03-18-2011 06:27 PM

RE: High wind technique
 


ORIGINAL: HarryC

I am not aware of any fundamental difference and have never heard the term ''forward slip'' in the 30 years I have been full-size flying! It is always sideslip, whether to approach in cross wind or to lose height rapidly because you have messed up a glide/engine failure approach! One requires more power to prevent that rapid loss of height, in the other situation you actually want that rpaid loss, but that apart they are the same!
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A forward slip and side are essentially the same thing but at least in Air force flight training they teach us that they are different. I think that it is mainly to teach us that even though they are the same control inputs they can be used for different purposes, ie a crosswind landing or rapid altitude loss. I am suprised you have never heard the term forward slip. I was taught the term forward slip the moment I entered flight training on the civilian side and they use both terms in military flight training as well.

HighPlains 03-19-2011 06:44 AM

RE: High wind technique
 
A forward slip and side slip are two different maneuvers, though both are cross controlled with respect to rudder and aileron inputs.

The forward slip maintains the same ground path, with the heading of the airplane off axis to that path. These are great fun in full sized airplanes, especially when the wind is to the right side of the nose. Mostly used to drop a great deal of altitude without the use of flaps

The side slip is using aileron to bank into a cross wind, and the rudder is used to hold the heading of the aircraft the same direction as the flight path. With a GA high wing airplane, you can do this right down to the runway, touching down on the up wind wheel first. If you are really skilled, you can add power and stay on just that wheel for some distance.

What terms they use in England doesn't matter too much in the States, except when trying to understand what they are talking about. What is a bunt?

TruBlu02 03-19-2011 07:52 AM

RE: High wind technique
 


ORIGINAL: HighPlains

A forward slip and side slip are two different maneuvers, though both are cross controlled with respect to rudder and aileron inputs.

The forward slip maintains the same ground path, with the heading of the airplane off axis to that path. These are great fun in full sized airplanes, especially when the wind is to the right side of the nose. Mostly used to drop a great deal of altitude without the use of flaps

The side slip is using aileron to bank into a cross wind, and the rudder is used to hold the heading of the aircraft the same direction as the flight path. With a GA high wing airplane, you can do this right down to the runway, touching down on the up wind wheel first. If you are really skilled, you can add power and stay on just that wheel for some distance.

What terms they use in England doesn't matter too much in the States, except when trying to understand what they are talking about. What is a bunt?
All of my civilian time I got in a Cessna 172 and it was alot of fun to forward slip off some altitude on final. I actually looke for airfield with obstacles so I could practice steep approaches using a slip.

Top_Gunn 03-19-2011 08:00 AM

RE: High wind technique
 
I used to fly full-scale sailplanes, an activity in which the ability to slip is essential, since with no engine if you miss the runway you can't go around. Back then, we just called them "slips," without distinguishing "forward slips" from "side slips." But that was some years ago.

It is remarkable how much harder it is to do slips with an RC model than with a full-scale aircraft. I'm guessing that this is partly because stick and rudder pedals are easier to work with than two sticks, but that's just a guess.


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