Wanting to get started.
 

Hello all, as the title says, I want to get started in the world of RC flying.

I am an avid aviation enthusiast, i play any flight sim I can get my hands on, and I am currently enrolled in flight school and hope to become a professional pilot (someday).

Now what kind of enthusiast would I be if I didn't give ******** a go?:)

I have been reading the forums for a few days now, browsing beginner and advanced posts, looking through all the different sub-forums and absorbing the information I can.

I just have a few questions to you all as a community.

1. Where to get started? I have been looking at the NitroPlanes website, and there are a few planes I really like. http://www.nitroplanes.com/60a-dy893...y-rtf-24g.html
is the plane I really want. Now in real life the A-10 is an extremely stable, easy to fly aircraft. That can be controlled at almost any speed. If this plane is to scale it should behave the same. If it will not be a "good" starter plane, where could I find one? I am looking for full control. Rudder, Aileron, elevator.

2. Clubs
I live inAbilene, Tx (I.E the butthole of Texas) Stuck here until my wife gets orders elsewhere. I looked up info on any clubs around, found one and e-mailed the guy.but google earth's image of the club flying site looks like it has been a cow pasture for a number of years. I e-mailed the contact info listed, so I will see if he responds or not. Does anyone else know of a club close to Abilene?

3. Transition from electric to gas(glow i think is the correct term?) and from foam to balsa. Also, RTF, ATF, and Kit. How doI know what I need to make them fly? I guess that's a more advanced question once I actually get into the sport more. I am starting out electric for sure, would like to give "real" motors a shot. Had a Nitro truck for a few years, i can only imagine one of those little beasts on an airframe.


Any and all help/advice will be appreciated and taken into consideration.

Thanks in advance

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Hi

Join the AMA, (Academy of Model Aeronautics), then join a club. Go watch them fly, and what they are flying. Some times you can get used equipment cheap and in good condition. Some times there are club trainers you can use, till you get an idea what you want to buy. Many possibilities for you. Just dont get in a hurry to buy the new stuff. Spend a couple of weekends at the Flying Field, watching and asking questions.


Vince

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Issue I'm having is I don't know if there are any clubs around me :(the only one that is even reasonably close looks like it hasn't been active for a while. Will see if I get an e-mail back. Another issue is there are no true "hobby shops" around. The closest thing I have is a hobby lobby....POS store ><

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I had a look on the AMA website and found that the clubs URL was no good. A quick Google turned up this. Looks like they have a nice facility.

http://abilenercsociety.webs.com/

If you're going the club route, I'd suggest skipping the electric planes unless you just really want to fly electric. A bigger nitro plane is more stable in the wind and is easier to see. That means you learn pilot skills faster and have a lot fewer days that the wind keeps you grounded. I'm in Fort Worth and find that to be the biggest hindrance to new pilots learning. That said, our very favorite trainer is the Hobbico Avistar. It's a .40 trainer/sport plane that is better in the wind than a traditional trainer but still has enough self-righting to be beginner friendly.

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The A-10 that I was looking at seems to be a pretty large size. Could be wrong though :) Thanks for the tips, any idea where I could look up that trainer you mentioned? If not I can just google it.

My parents live in Dallas, the next time I am headed that way maybe I could stop by your club and check it out?

Drop me an e-mail or post the info here.

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At about a meter wide (39-40" in "American" - lol) it's not a big plane at all. A basic trainer is normally 1.65meters (65") wide or bigger, and odds on about 5-6 times the weight of that little foamie. While an extra 25" in wing span may not sound like much, the bigger model is HUGE by comparison. My Hangar 9 65" P51 is MASSIVE when compared to a FMS/Airfield 57" foamie P51, and there is only 8" difference between them two. Also, high wing trainers are self leveling for the most part, where a low wing like that A10 or my P51 will not be - making it harder to learn on as you have to ensure that the plane is level. You have to fly a low wing out of a corner where in a trainer you don't.
Also, light models can 'float' and drift around in next to no wind (making them harder to fly), where my old trainer was just magic in how it tracked and flew in the air. This is one activity where bigger IS better, despite what my wife says (she complains my planes and heli take up too much space round the house ;) )

If your going to want to fly glow (nitro) and/or gas (petrol), stay clear of the small electrics, and start down a path where you think you'll end up, that being bigger and heavier nitro as you'll then be used to how a big nitro plane feels from day one, and can limit what you need to get re staring and field equipment. You will not be able to start on some low wing areobat and will need to start off on a high wing trainer and work your way from there. A GOOD simulator will teach you thumb memory and basic flight without needing money for repairs every time you stack the plane - mine has saved me thousands!

This type of thing is a good place to start http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt7jo...layer_embedded

As for your nitro truck motor being a 'beast' ...... my heli runs a 0.50ci motor that is good for 17000rpm (on a 8.5-1 reduction), my trainer has a 0.61ci, and they are not big motors by any stretch of the imagination when talking planes (my P51 will have a 20cc gas motor in it)

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Kodiak, click the link in my signature to get some great basic info on getting started

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Minnflyer's site is really good. Should be required reading for anyone getting into the hobby. As for specific trainer recommendations, the Hobbico Avistar I mentioned above is my first choice. It's pretty good in the wind and can do basic aerobatics when trimmed for it. And yes, when you visit the metroplex shoot me a message here and we'll try to get together at the field. I'm putting a trainer plane together now for instructing so I may be able to buddy box you then.

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All good advice. I would urge you to get an RC simulator. I used to not care for them too much. But have since changed my mind. Students that come to me with a lot of simulator time solo faster. Its an established fact with me now. About the only help they need on the real thing is learning trim work, getting fluid motion on the sticks, and landing. I had a guy solo in 5 flights with 40 hours of sim time. I currently have a teenager about to solo in 10 flights.
Edwin

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I have a question. I have been flying RC for about 25 years. With that many years of experience flying, a person would think that I would know the answer to this question. I have flown mostly high wing airplanes such as the Piper Cub. I did try to fly a P-40 once and as soon as it came of the ground, the airplane rolled over to the right and slammed into the runway. What happened? I hear about the term tip stall. Is that what happened? If so, how do I keep that from happening again? I have another .60 WWII warbird that I'm ready to fly but I scared that history will repeat itself.

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You yanked it off the ground too soon. Warbirds (heavy planes) need a longer takeoff run before getting air born. Keep the climb out straight and dont turn until you have good flying speed. I carry about a quarter throttle to the ground and go to idle about touch down. Been there done that more than a few times before learning my lesson.
Edwin

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Wow! Thank you for the response. I have a Hangar 9 Spitfire that is ready to go. I've just been to afraid to fly it for that very reason. I will do exactly what you say. Get enough airspeed before I lift off.

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Hi!
The warthog you show is just a toy! Or toyish compared to "Club-oriented-R/C -flying models" that are glow-powered and bigger (more stable).
If you are serious and really want to learn flying R/C in a club, a much better plane to start out with would be a high winged .40 trainer. The Kyosho "Calmato" is a good beginner plane with a span of apr 165cm, weighting around 2,4kg) but there are of many others that are also suited for beginners pilots.
I prefer glow powered planes myself as they are more "flexible" than electric powered planes. That means they can be fueled up , flown for 10-15min, landed, fueled up again in a minute or two and flown again etc, etc. Glow power also means more engine know how! Something to be proud of when you get the hang of it! Electric is just pulling/pushing a switch! Glow power also means sound! Pleasant to many of us!

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I have seen a few times that your recommendation for the Calmato difficult as is unavailable to us in the states..

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I really like the Apprentice as a trainer. Lots of power, flies very well upright or inverted, float flies well, tough, and parts are available and reasonably priced. I'd do the plug and play one, gens ace batteries and one of the 4 bank chargers and a dx6, 7 or 8.

Even if you go nitro/gas, there are still times when plug it in and fly is nice.

Save the ducted fan jets for later.

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Hangar 9 warbirds are good entry level warbirds. They are fairly light weight and fly more like a sport plane. Dont be afraid of the spitfire. You should do fine with the longer takeoff run. I have the F6F, P-40, P-51 (older discontinued), and B-25. Good sport scale.
Edwin

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I noticed you said you wanted to start with electric planes, that is fine. There are many electric trainers on the market that fly just as good
as a nitro plane. However the warthog isn't a trainer, it has no self righting characteristics, most of the Nitroplanes models like that are
underpowered and are a handful to fly. The radio equipment is sub standard, and after trying to fly the warthog you will be left with a
bad aftertaste of the RC hobby. I will also reccomend a club and an instructor, success is never gauranteed but the chances of damaging
your model is greatly reduced, and the chances of early success is greatly increased.

However if there are no clubs in the area and you are going to have a go at it yourself the Hobbyzone supercub has taught alot of people
to fly on their own. It is not a 4 channel airplane, it has rudder, elevator , and throttle. the newer version that I linked has been nicely
upgraded since the plane came on the market, It includes a 2.4ghz transmitter, and a lipo battery. the transmitter is basic but can be used
in other models down the road.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...sm-rtf-HBZ7400

Here is a more advanced (and more expensive) trainer, 4 channel, lipo. Comes with a very nice radio that can be used on other planes in the future, .
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...-radio-EFL2725

This is a wood conventional trainer with electric power. comes with top of the line equipment, and is very expensive. you would need to buy
batteries, They reccomend NIMH batteries, but a 4cell 3600mah lipo powers this plane great. I would definetly not reccomend this type of
plane if you are not going to be instructed because of its wood construction and semi fragile nature. The only downside to this plane is it comes with a
72mhz radio. That may change when it comes back into stock.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...=LXSGY1**&P=ML

I have flown all 3 of these planes and all fly very good. Good luck and keep us posted on how you progress

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Though the dx4 that comes with the super cub, and the dx5 that comes with the apprentice can be used for other models, they have no model memory- so you would have to rebind, reverse channels as needed and retrim every time you switch planes.

That's why if I had it to do over again, I'd buy a computer transmitter right off the bat, and get a reciever ready or plug and play plane, like the plug and play version of the Apprentice. You would also need batteries and a charger, but like the transmitter that comes with the ready to fly version, if you get into the hobby you would soon be wanting a better charger than what typically comes with planes.

For me, I went with the ready to fly apprentice, and soon purchased a radian pro. After one day at the field flying both off the dx5, I ran out and got a dx8. Having 3 levels of dual rates and expo is really nice.

Dx5 is now used for a skydiver, so it wasn't a total waste...

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As an experienced RC flier, you can understand this.

1. Regardless of the info in a kit, etc. with a War Bird type model assure the CG is NOT aft of 27% MAC. Most show 30-35% on the instructions. That is absolutely stupid and I cannot ever figure why they do that other than to sell more kits. 25% MAC is the best in sub-sonic aeromodeling with convergent airflow. Once you become really familiar with the model you can sneak it back slowly if you feel you must. When it snaps on a TO you know you overdid it.

2. With the wings on most scale-type models, a neat trick is to raise the ailerons - each side - at least 3 degrees and preferably 5 degrees from the making the wing with a slight effective washout. In addition it helps big time to have more UP than DOWN in your aileron set-up, but the washout technique WORKS! Years ago I raced in War Bird Scale Racing and my models flew straight off and I could turn tighter without a snap.
Stand a good distance behind a big airliner and check the trailing edges. They washout big time.

Couple years ago I was at a field and a modeler was cussing a new Corsair. I suggested the aileron treatment and next flight the TO was straight out and he was doing aerobatic maneuvers he could not do before without snapping out. Nice to see a modeler having FUN rather than dismay. :)

Oh you will get plenty "OH-NO" from the sideliners as they will not recognize your use of basic "applied aerodynamics" even after you prove it to be true. Pay no mind to the unknowing.

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Learn how to fly on a two channel glider. They may not be exciting but will teach you the basics and they don't cost much. You will find a wide selection of gliders made from EPP foam material that are cheap and easy to repair.

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Awesome. Thank you for the information.

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Hi!
Dennymo!
If you want to progress to more demanding airplanes like warbirds, I recommend going with a much simpler low winged, aerobatic plane first.
What you describe when taking off your P-40 is typical of how a newbie take off that do not have a feel for how to take off a highly loaded airplane.
Giving full throttle , giving full up elevator all the time...and just not realizing when the nose rises that the speed isn't enough and that the angle of attack of the wing is too much...what happens then is that one wing stalls! Snap! -Instant kit!

It's vital to know how airplanes reacts at different situations, when they stall, how they react to stall, how they react to inverted flight, hammerheads, rolls , loops, slow flights etc. To get that experience you have to reach out and try more and more "difficult" airplanes. Having flown just high winged Cub-like-planes isn't the way to go if you want the advance in this hobby.

A very go low winged airplane is a Q-500 type airplane like the one below (China -Clipper) powered by a .40 ball bearinged engine.
This type of airplane can fly rather fast, around 180km/h, and slow like a CUB, but it's much more aerobatic and responsive thus require more knowledge. It isn't at all difficult to fly but as it is faster it´s more demanding.
Then when you can do rolls, hammerheads, do inverted flight at low level, rolling circles, pylon turns etc ...then after a year or two...then try out a warbird.

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The OP has been in the hobby for 25 years. He's not a newbie. I do think the above theories are right about your problem though- a tip stall caused by taking off with too little airspeed or too steeply.

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Phoenix flight sim

DX6i

BNF e-flight / parkzone aircraft.

Park or other open space.

No AMA or club required.

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THIS IS THE ORIGINAL POST.. Some how a question was asked and we are answering warbird questions inside KODIAK599's post.

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I think that this one would be a good one to start out on.
[link]http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEXK2**&P=0[/link]

It's a good trainer and has extra pieces to make it even slower that you can take off after you get used to it. It is more expensive but you get more for it too. It is going to be alot more stable than the smaller electric models like the one you have listed. And the good thing is it has a basic version of Real Flight that lets you fly the exact same plane in the simulator. You may also find a more active club and come spring most will have a trainer night and you can take your plane there or may even get a chance to fly the club trainer plane to try it out. It might be worth it to make the drive starting out or to try it out. If you are serious in trying it out, I am trying to sell a heli and as a selling point I'm giving the buyer an option to buy my G4.5 simulator cheap if I don't sell the sim or put the heli on ebay I'll make ya a heck of a deal for the sim to start ya off.

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Thanks for all the replies! And I don't mind the de-railing. My goal is to fly warbirds exclusively once I am comfortable. I want a 1/6 scale A-10 as my big "project" plane. But that is YEARS down the road.

Looking at the planes, and the trainers. The price difference between the Nitro and Electric planes is enormous.  I assume it's because of the motor being more expensive and the planes are usually larger in the nitro style?  I am getting a plane as a birthday present. Money is a little tight and I have wanted to get into this for a while. Wife finally gave me the ok to pick a plane out and she would see what we could scrounge up.  I would much rather have a plane that I can fly for a long time and learn on than something that looks "cool" and flies "ok".  I am getting in contact with my local club, thanks for finding that website for me!  Hopefully they start flying again soon and I can go out and watch/chat for a while.  With everyone saying start nitro, I really want too. But 400+ for a plane is just a little out of my price range :( Maybe I can convince my wife to go for it.

Thanks again for all the answers and keep em coming!

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I've found that the infrastructure between gas and glow are not too different cost wise. Keep in mind that you will need multiple batteries and a good battery charger. A good charger can run you from $80 to $150. I would suggest a multi battery charger. Mine charges 4 batteries at once and all battery chemistries. You can also look for used equipment. One of my current students got started for about $200 buying his plane and some supplies at a swapmeet and a few other bits of supplies new. Ask around at the club and get one of them to inspect the used equipment first. Cool planes are nice to fly, but while learning that will where off quickly once you just try to fly without crashing. It wont matter what it looks like eventually.
Edwin

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The big difference in price you will see is that alot of the beginners electrics are smaller, and made of foam. they require a smaller battery,
and smaller servos. also foam planes usually cost less than their balsa wood counterparts. If you were outfitting a .40 sized electric plane
it would be around the same as a .40 nitro plane.

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And another thing, my electric students stand down at about 10 mph winds. My glow students go up to 18 mph or so. They dont like it, but the trainer can handle it. The electrics can fly in higher winds, but the students dont get much out of it. Its enough of a lesson to just fly. Eventually you will learn to handle the winds, but its hard to deal with in the beginning.
Edwin

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Not really. A .40 size electric trainer (wingspan about 48-56") is gonna cost pretty darn close to the equivalent nitro. But most electric trainers are a bit smaller. For electric, I think the [link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXZMX7&P=0]Hobbico Switch[/link] is a great choice, as it gets its name from the fact you can switch it from a high-wing trainer to a low/mid wing configuration once you become proficient.

It's "only" $279, including radio, but here's where the prices even up; you need to buy 2-5 extra LiPo batteries if you want to fly for more than 10-15 minutes in a given afternoon. The Hobbico replacement is $50...you could probby get it at HobbyKing for a lot less...and you'll probby want a better charger at some point, too ($40-100, again, look @ HobbyKing). Either way, there's your $100 difference (and then some)!

If you go ala carte with nitro, you can easily do it for $300ish. First off, check Craigslist and/or your club's "for sale" forum for gear near your home (eBay doesn't usually work cuz of shipping charges, and I'd never trust everything to work). Personally, I didn't want/get a flat-wing basic trainer, I wanted something that was tame enough for training, but have enough chops for intermediate/sport flying. That ususally means semi-symmetrical wing, so you might want to peruse the thread I had/have going on many options for this kind of plane: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10901324/tm.htm

Anyhoo, here's a nice budget nitro 'set (figuring no tax/free ship, which Tower always offers in some fashion):

$85 [link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXASPH&P=0]Thunder Tiger Ready 40 Mk. III[/link] cool molded plastic/foam construction...which you'll be seeing more & more of).
$50 [link=http://www.sigmfg.com/cgi-bin/dpsmart.exe/MainMenuFV5.html?E+Sig]Aviastar .46 engine from SIG Mfg (you'll have to navigate the site to 'engines'...I can't link directly[/link] true ABC construction, good reviews...it's not an OS, but it's less than half the cost (If you can swing a Thunder Tiger engine, though...the plane's made for it).
$80-150 for a good/cheap 5-channel radio + 4servos (servos are about $8-15 each). [link=http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__295__190__Tx_Rx_Systems_Parts-2_2E4Ghz_HobbyKing.html]HobbyKing Radios[/link] are actually pretty good, you'll have to add servos & shipping. But you can go [link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAEXR&P=0]Tactic[/link]Tactic, [link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXZHG0&P=0]Airtronics[/link], or even go to 4 channels if you want to save more $.

Not too bad, if I say so myself!!.

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Thanks for the post DeanDome, I might check out that route. Looks reasonably affordable :)  My only issue is...I have no hobby shops near by that I can go and actually LOOK at the models and engines, and talk to the guys at the shop. I have to do all of my shopping online, and get alot of my info via forums (like I am now) Thanks again for the info. Will keep you all updated once I make my choice and get in contact with my local club.

Any other info/tips/plane ideas are MORE than welcome :)

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I just wanted to drop another electric option. I have never flown this plane, but I have flown the Sig senior, lt40,lt25 trainers and Sig planes are
all around excellent flyers.

http://www.advantagehobby.com/72655/...4ARFR/?cat=174

Very nice little plane, will need a radio, batteries, charger

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Why buy all at once? How about a kit? Goldberg Eagle 2, Sig Kadet Mk II, Sig Seniorita. Build for a couple of months then buy the engine and radio. Then when it gets re-kitted [:o] it will be a lot easier for you to repair since you know how it went together the first time. It is really cool when a plane you have built from sticks leaves the ground for the first time :) And by all means find a instructor. I did not listen to my LHS owner. He said get it built and I will teach you how to fly. That worked great the second time around!! Good Luck

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I will second most of the advice given here with one very important addition. Lose the link to Nitroplanes...their quality is very hit and miss and the money you think you are saving you will spend repairing or upgrading the equipment you buy from them. Tower Hobbies is a much more reliable online store, the quality is higher (as are the prices). But for someone new to the hobby, go the used route, you'll get more for your money.</p>

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For the beginner in Abilene. I am in Odessa Texas just right down the road. I agree that nitro is the way to go for your first plane. There are lots of good flying trainer planes so pick one that you like but not love as all planes have a crash dare, just don't know what date it is. I started fling again aftera 20 year lull and 2 wives but I picked a trainer to get back the feel of the sticks. I bought a TWM sky raider Mach 1 ARF and got it ready to fly. It has a good wing span and a bolt on wing and they are a good looking plane and easy to finish. It is still one of my favorite planes to fly as the west Texas wind seems to blow all the time and the sky raider handles the wind really well and the cost of one is less than 125.00 dollars. Then you will need an engine, 40 size is good, and watch eBay for a good sale price on one. You can usually find one for 75.00 or less and that would include shipping. You will need to get several props, a 10 x 6 is good for the engine and plane. Then you will need to buy some fuel. I fly 15% nitro but you can choose what fuel you want to fly with. And you will need a chicken stick or an electric starter, and if you choose electric starter, you will need a small 12 volt battery also. And you will need a glow plug lighter to light the glow plug. Then you will need a good radio. I personally use futaba radios, but there are other good brands too. Look on eBay as you can get a good system pretty reasonable on there. You are going to need to go ahead and get a complete radio system at the start as you are going to need 4 servos, a transmitter and a receiver and you can get all of that in a complete radio package. A flight box is not mandatory but comes in handy to hold your fuel, starter, etc. oh and you will need to get some fuel hose to plumb your motor. Depending in the plane you buy, you may or may not need to buy a spinner also. All of the above can be purchased at various hobby stores online. I tend to buy a lot of stuff from tower hobbies as they almost always have everything you need in stock. If the radio you buy doesn't have a receiver battery with it, you will need one of those too. Again you can find them on eBay pretty cheap, and I use 6 volt 2500 milliamperes battery packs in all my planes. You will also need some thin ca glue and some 6 minute epoxy to assemble your plane with. And depending on which plane you get, if it has a wing that is held on with rubber bands, you will need to get a box of #64 rubber bands. If you choose a flight box, get you a fuel pump to pump your fuel in the plane. A hand pump works well. You will need to balance your prop too as vibration is bad for a plane. You will need some foam padding to wrap around your reciever and battery pack in the plane and I glue Velcro strips in to hold my electronics. I am sure I have missed a few things but this is most or maybe all the essentials you will need, plus all the sim time you can get.

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I see alot of replies that put forth the idea of using the large, slow nitro trainers, joining a club, and so on. not bad suggestions. That said, there is another way to get started. I , personally, had a friend guide me to a local swap meet where I bought my first radio, and airplane, and some inexpensive accessories.<div> I got a used futaba 6 ch transmitter/rcvr set for $30.00, and a GWS Slo-Stik airplane for $25.00. A $10.00 lipo, $10.00 charger for the lipo, and I had all I needed to start flying. He helped me get into the air, and build a little confidence, without spending a lot of cash on something I might not have been able to do otherwise.</div><div> Now, I look all over the internet, using e-bay, hobbypartz, hobbyking just to name a few.</div><div>This hobby is about having fun, not spending money. I have no need to purchase high dollar, big name equipment to have fun. I bought a 9ch, 8 model-memory radio from an internet supplier for $53.00! extra recvrs cost about $8.00. That is a lot better than buying a radio that needs recvrs that cost more than my original set.</div><div> Electric set ups can do anything nitro can,and require less clean-up, my airplanes don't get all gooey and sticky. </div><div> Start with something inexpensive, and have fun!!!</div><div>
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I also got to thinking you might go ahead and sign up for the newletter thing through Towerhobbies, you may get a $10 off $50 coupon right off the bat. But you may get lucky or if you don't order anything for a while after you sign up eventually you'll get a $20 off $50 or $10 off $25. Is a good way to get a few little things that you may need that are "Parts Express" items that are cheaper to ship.

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While the others may well be, I have their 60 sized 'blue nosed' mustang, and while I'm still putting it together, there is enough feedback on that plane to have me a little concerned, and going into the build (and eventually the maiden) with a LOT of caution - this one is apparently VERY scale in how it flies, and by no means a 'sport' flying model!

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http://www.hangar-9.com/Products/Def...ProdID=HAN2460

What about this plane as a starter? Would have to buy a Transmitter (Tx?) and servos. But looks like a decent deal :)


http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...amp;I=L7ASPH**

and what about that deal? would I need to buy anything else? (besides fuel)