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kswanson 05-25-2013 06:26 AM

Elevator Radio Set Up
 
I need advice on how to do an elevator set up on a Revolver 70.

I bought the plane used and trying to get my radio set up. The elevator has to individual servos for each side of the elevator.

I have a Spektrum DX6i DSMX 6 that I bought from hobby zone where you got the free RX.

I am not sure how I connect the two servos up to the RX and need advice.

I tried a Y splitter much like you use for Ailerons but that does not work as the servos face each other that one goes one direction and the other goes the opposite.

Thanks

Mk23socom 05-25-2013 06:55 AM

RE: Elevator Radio Set Up
 
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...andard-EXRA320

A reversing Y is an option for you to consider.. works like a standard Y but has been modified to reverse one of the servos for an application such as yours..<br type="_moz"/>

jester_s1 05-25-2013 08:28 AM

RE: Elevator Radio Set Up
 
You can reverse a servo if you want. All you have to do is switch the two wires going to the motor. I don't have that radio, but if it allows you to set up a mix with either ch. 5 or 6 and one of them is available, you can do it that way also.

ec121 05-26-2013 03:49 AM

RE: Elevator Radio Set Up
 
Jester. You also have to reverse the + and - wires on the feedback pot or the motor will keep to trying to drive to position.

Rodney 05-26-2013 04:22 AM

RE: Elevator Radio Set Up
 


ORIGINAL: jester_s1

You can reverse a servo if you want. All you have to do is switch the two wires going to the motor. I don't have that radio, but if it allows you to set up a mix with either ch. 5 or 6 and one of them is available, you can do it that way also.
Wrong, you have to reverse the motor wires as said but you must also exchange the two outer wires on the feedback pot.

jester_s1 05-26-2013 04:26 AM

RE: Elevator Radio Set Up
 
You guys are right. I did it myself a while back and forgot about the other wires on the pot.

flyinwalenda 05-26-2013 05:02 AM

RE: Elevator Radio Set Up
 
Connect one elevator servo to the ELEVATOR port of the receiver. Connect the other elevator servo to the GEAR port of the receiver.
Program the following mixes. After programming the mix you may have to reverse either the Elev. or Gear servo and adjust the rates up or down to match.

Mix 1 &ndash; (This disables the Gear Switch on Transmitter, This also allows proper elevator to gear mixing&hellip; without this only the down side of servo works.)
Gear Mixed With Gear Activate
Rate Down -100% Up -100% (Important has to be negative values)
Switch On Trim Active

Mix 2 &ndash; (Mixing Gear Channel with Elevator for Dual Servo Elevator &ndash; Using less than 100% to match the surfaces in the down and up positions.)
Elevator Mixed With Gear Activate
Rate Down +96% Up +96%
Switch On Trim Active



Steve Steinbring 05-26-2013 06:57 AM

RE: Elevator Radio Set Up
 
Years ago before there was servo reversing!

With a Y chord we simply turned one servo around in its installation that way it would effectively operate in the same direction as its twin on the other side.

kswanson 05-26-2013 07:35 AM

RE: Elevator Radio Set Up
 


ORIGINAL: flyinwalenda

Connect one elevator servo to the ELEVATOR port of the receiver. Connect the other elevator servo to the GEAR port of the receiver.
Program the following mixes. After programming the mix you may have to reverse either the Elev. or Gear servo and adjust the rates up or down to match.

Mix 1 – (This disables the Gear Switch on Transmitter, This also allows proper elevator to gear mixing… without this only the down side of servo works.)
Gear Mixed With Gear Activate
Rate Down -100% Up -100% (Important has to be negative values)
Switch On Trim Active

Mix 2 – (Mixing Gear Channel with Elevator for Dual Servo Elevator – Using less than 100% to match the surfaces in the down and up positions.)
Elevator Mixed With Gear Activate
Rate Down +96% Up +96%
Switch On Trim Active



Brian - Thanks for the help see my settings below but I still have a problem (see below the pics) .

http://www.iw.net/~kswan/mix1.jpg

http://www.iw.net/~kswan/mix2.jpg

Using these settings both elevator halves are working but the one connected to gear is still not aligned and if I hit the gear switch 0 to 1 or 1 to 0 that elevator half still moves as if it was the Gear switch is still active.

I don't think that is correct and wondering how I resolve it?

flyinwalenda 05-26-2013 12:19 PM

RE: Elevator Radio Set Up
 
Mix #1 .....both values need to be negative 100 ( D -100%) (U -100%)
You still have D at plus 100 (+100).


kswanson 05-26-2013 02:32 PM

RE: Elevator Radio Set Up
 


ORIGINAL: flyinwalenda

Mix #1 .....both values need to be negative 100 ( D -100%) (U -100%)
You still have D at plus 100 (+100).



That did the job... Thank you Brian!

Charlie P. 05-26-2013 06:01 PM

RE: Elevator Radio Set Up
 


Isolve this issue with an Equalizer II from Smart-Fly. It is much more sensitive to fine adjustments than my 9C was able to achieve.

https://www.smart-fly.com/Products/E.../equalizer.htm</p>

Bozarth 05-26-2013 06:58 PM

RE: Elevator Radio Set Up
 


ORIGINAL: Steve Steinbring

Years ago before there was servo reversing!

With a Y chord we simply turned one servo around in its installation that way it would effectively operate in the same direction as its twin on the other side.

That won't do it, even back then! Rotation direction wouldn't change in your scenario.

Kurt

Charlie P. 05-26-2013 07:52 PM

RE: Elevator Radio Set Up
 
I have two models that stagger them.  One servo mounted higher on one side of the fuselage than on the other; so that the axis of control rods is the same for either side.  

lopflyers 05-27-2013 03:03 AM

RE: Elevator Radio Set Up
 
A matchbox will also solve that problem.<div>nThat is a sweet plane, there is a looooong thread here titled Large Revolver of all of us that have the plane.<div>You might want to read and join us.</div></div>

kswanson 05-27-2013 06:15 AM

RE: Elevator Radio Set Up
 


ORIGINAL: lopflyers

A matchbox will also solve that problem.<div>nThat is a sweet plane, there is a looooong thread here titled Large Revolver of all of us that have the plane.<div>You might want to read and join us.</div></div>

Good information but please share links to the "matchbox" and the thread for the larger revolver. I will search in the meantime.

flyinwalenda 05-27-2013 06:21 AM

RE: Elevator Radio Set Up
 


ORIGINAL: kswanson



ORIGINAL: flyinwalenda

Mix #1 .....both values need to be negative 100 ( D -100%) (U -100%)
You still have D at plus 100 (+100).



That did the job... Thank you Brian!
Happy to help !
Here's a link to the matchbox
I use them when there are 2 servos on one control surface like in larger planes with 2 servos on each aileron. You can also use them when you run out of available ports on your receiver or mixes on your radio.


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