Annoying Newbie
 

I'm no expert but I have taught a couple guys how to fly, land, take off, recover and do some basic aerobatics, etc, etc; the point is I think I know what I'm talking about r/c related. But there is this new guy at the club who just got a trainer and an instructor has take him up I believe twice and he thinks knows everything and poses the absolute true about everything, and the worse is that when he ask me for help and I try to help him (because in this hobby every body helps everybody) he criticized the way I do things, and start saying things like:!QUOT!My instructor does things this way!QUOT! so go ask your instructor for help and stop annoying me; but that is not all, he start giving advice to people that are also in the learning process.

I stop helping him when he ask, I just can't stand be criticized by someone that knows nothing about r/c; I guess every field has one of this guys from time to time.

Newbies if you don't know what you are talking about keep your mouth shut and listen to people with more experience than you, no one will ever doubt help you and you going to make good friends. Sorry guys but I need to release some steam here.

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This may be just a guess here but I think this guy roams RCU forums. I think his handle is GTaco. He also lives in Florida. Sounds alot like the guy you are talking about. He's about as bright as a wet candle.:D

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Dude you have no idea.

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yea, if it the kid we have been having to deal with for the last couple weeks, I feel your pain. The good thing is that boneheads like that don't last long usually. Unfortunately, sometimes they last longer than you want them to, but just ignore him and have your fun and hope he doesn't kill someone with his ignorance. It takes all kinds, but sometimes you have to deal with the ones that are instant pros. Sounds like he is as bad in real life as he comes off here.

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LOL...

I won't say which two people on these forums I would have expected as prime candidates to be your "problem child."

Generally you are more likely to find 13 to 15 year olds that will decide they have to know more than the instructors...

Sometimes you get it with adults... especially full scale pilots who are GOOD and older than the instructor. (crop dusters and fighter pilots are worst... You can't tell them ANYTHING :eek:)

************formatting that bold italics is just NOT working... :p

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I try to ignored him but to make worse thing worse looks like he likes hanging with me, and I end up walking arround the pitts trying to avoid him, and no he is not a full scale pilot, I actually have good experience with them so far, just let them feel in control(hold that trainer switch long, long, long into that spining dive) till they start screaming get it get it, get itttttt. And problem solve.

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I think i anderstand what you are going throug, i have a smartass that just started working with me, and this guy can somtimes go on my last nerve, my advice would be to you ignore him, and if he keeps bs'n then you just got to go up to him and tell him listen if you want me to help you, i will help you, but you got to listen, if you dont want me to help you then plz. live me alone. I know my example is not releated to RC flying but i think we have the same problem.

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Oh man I feel your pain!!!!!!! I had one once on a buddy box and was telling him very calmly what he was doing wrong and he yells that i don't know what I am talking about and he threw in a couple very descriptive adjectives, well I just unplugged from his Tx and said you have just soloed! He actually landed the plane but from that moment on I had nothing to do with him and no else would either, last I heard he was at a club way north of here.

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LOL. Thats funny!:)

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If I remember correctly, I knew everything there was to know about RC 2 weeks after I started... I have only since then have become stupid.

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I was thinking the same thing!
My trainer stuck it out with me and has became a great friend even though I know he was really getting tired of me the first few weeks.
I have seen the attitude in the thread a few times not only with new pilots but seasoned flyers. One thing I have learned, no matter how good you are, think you are, how much you know or think you know everyone knows something you don't or can do something you have trouble with.
Doesn't make the attitude easier to deal with though[&o]

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Now you know how we moderators feel! LOL

It amazes me how one day a kid comes into these forums saying something like:

I just found out about these RC planes!!
WOW! They are COOL!!!
Where can I get one?
How much are they?
What kind of gas do they need?
What's a Glow Plug?
Etc. Etc. Etc.

Then 2 weeks later, he's giving advice on how to do 3-D!

And the worst part of it is, on these forums, a newbie doesn't know if his question is being answered by a well-seasoned veteran, or a snotty kid.

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I always tell newbies that the most dangerous part
of their flying career is "the time between arrogance,
and humility." ... been there, done that.

"Arrogance" starts earlier with some, but "Humility"
always eventually arrives.

Some take the hint, some don't. Life's too short to
worry much about it and I refuse to let their problem
alter my pulse rate. I think the best approach is to
politely, but bluntly, tell them in simple words of
two syllables or less that their attitude is
offensive, and to either alter it or just go away ...
their choice.

As to these bulletin boards, advice is worth what
you pay for it. It's my responsiblity to judge the
worthiness of any advice I receive, here or elsewhere.
People can accept my advice, or not. I don't really
care unless it affects my personal safety. Then I
can get pretty adamant.

And, as is frequently quoted at our airfield, "Opinions
are like a**-holes, every one has one." Free speech really
is the "American Way."

Live long, and prosper
Jerry L. Gubka

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I have learned that alot of people do things alot of different ways. That doesn't make them wrong, just different. I have trained a few guys (family members) in my time and when I am asked for advice I tell them what has worked for me and that there are other ways of doing things. I also refer them to here. I have gotten to know a few names in here who's opinion I can rely on and a few I can't. Not that the advice is bad, just different from the way I prefer to do things.

I don't give advice on here because my knowledge is still growing. I come here to read and learn from the wide variety of people RCU. To me RCU should be required reading for a newbie, but, that is just my opinion.

In closing I would like to thank you guys/gals for helping me with your opinions, suggestions, and sharing your information so I can learn and better myself in this great hobby.

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And a very good opinion it is.

Thanks Kent, I wish guys like you would post like this more often. There are so many members who do just like you do; Read the posts, absorb the knowledge, and use it. But we rarely hear from you guys. A lot of newbies would benefit from hearing stories like this.

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I have had so many of these guys,kids, types.
I will usualy just say you obviously dont need me anymore, I then answer every question with i'm not sure you better ask somone else.
They realize real quick how valuable good advice from a experienced r/c pilot realy is.

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I also being fairly new to the hobby would like to thank all who contribute to the community. Ive been reading these forums for about a year now and just beacame a member within the last couple of weeks. Ive learned agree or disagree, if u need to be taught, LISTEN. I learned from a long time flyer and we certainly dont agree about everything but when he talks I shut up and listen. Knowledge and experience lead to skill, not the other way around.

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Thanks Tim, and welcome to RCU!

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I've fortuntaly not had anyone in person quite as bad as what I've seen here on the forums, and what you guys have described, but I've had a few "know it all" types.

When it's a kid, I usually take it as a form for entusiasm, the desire to know as much as possible and do as much as possible as quickly as possible. So, if I'm asked for help, and I get the "so-and-so does it this way" or that kind of thing, then my answer is "yes, well, there are many ways to do things, do you want to try it that way?" then I step back. I also don't mind letting someone try something "their way", unless I really think it might endanger others. Even if I think the answer isn't the best way to do things.

The adults, I'm less tolerant of. Usually, if I start getting grief from one of them, it suddenly becomes time for me to fly my plane, and it's amazing how bad my hearing is when my engine is running :D (I've yet to have someone I wanted to go away follow me to the pilot stand when I'm flying, but I suspect it's happened to others)

"The foolish man knows only what he knows. The wise man also knows what he does not know."

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I'm not a newbe, and I'm not an expert. I know everything about a few things, and completely nothnig about a few others. Some might even think they know everything about everything... but I doubt that.

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Noone can know everything about everything. They may think they do, but they are grossly mistaken. Everyone has limitations.

The key is for each of us to know our limitations. Unfortunately, some don't. I see this a lot in the full scale world. Unfortunately, when someone there doesn't know his limitations, he usually kills other people that don't deserve to die.

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I completely, concur with some of the other Newbies that have posted in here! I'm an adult, (Well, my wife says I'm the oldest 12 year old boy she's ever seen... :D) more than twice a legal adult, and one thing I've learned is, SHUT UP AND LISTEN! Particularly when you don't know what you are doing. People with experience in ANY field are like treasure chests. If a multi-millionaire wants to tell me how he made his mony, you can bet I'm gonna listen! I may not be able to succeed the same way, but that experience is invaluable. You can always "filter" what you may consider unimportant or of no value, but being rude about it is pathetic and immature. Thanks to everyone for their help. I've learned so much in here!:D

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Tatally agree with Dave and others! In this hobby (and not only here) the only way to "know everything" is to limit your scope to whatever one already learned. But this is not a true knowledge. Sooner or later person like this will be "outdated". Unfortunately for "us chickens" :) this kind of person(s) can present real problem, and can become a "nightmare" for those who just sturting and REALLY wants to learn something.

As Einstein (?) once said: "the only think I know for sure is that I don't know anything".

PS. I guess another part of "I know everything" is "watch this...." [>:] These two phrases MUST go together.

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You must have some knowledge of the subject before you know what to filter. Too many of these young guys think that they already know enough and filter out everything that disagrees with their preconceived notions and end up retaining none of the information.

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Usually, it's "Hey, y'all.... Watch this!" Which is immediately followed by severe injury, or death (I consider this preserving the human gene pool! ;))