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Mode One 03-07-2006 08:45 AM

(In reply to WHOM)
 
I realize this is likely being posted in the wrong topic forum. However, this is one of the topics I visit the most, as there is good traffic here and many diversified topics are discussed.

I don't like when I post to a topic in any of the forums, R/CUniverse automatically places (In reply to ______) in the bottom right corner of the Edit Box. This (In reply to) unless directed by the respondent to do else wise, uses the respondent just previous, as the person whom is being responded to, even though 90% of the time no one may be being responded to and the respondent is simply voicing his opinion on the topic.

At the least, this causes confusion and has even caused ill will on more then one occasion! Leave the Quote, and other buttons at the upper right of the Edit Box, as they ARE useful. However, I think this automatic feature should be disabled.

What do you think? Save the (In Reply To_____) Feature, or simply remove this feature from R/CUniverse.

elenasgrumpy 03-07-2006 09:08 AM

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I agree, throw it out. I've seen it cause many an argument. While you may in reality be commenting on something said 3 or 4 post prior, it says in reply to the last person posted. Then that person thinks your comments were directed at him personally & gets offended. From there the thread heads straight south until it gets too far out of hand & by the time Ken sees where the thread has gone, the original thread itself has been forgotten entirely & Ken has had enough & it's lock-down time.

2slow2matter 03-07-2006 09:11 AM

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If you use the fast reply at the bottom, I don't think that it puts In reply to, does it?

2slow2matter 03-07-2006 09:12 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
Whoops, apparently I just answered my own question :D. I have never paid any attention at all to that. Guess my vote will be for removing it:)

Mode One 03-07-2006 09:13 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
Elenasgrumpy, For being a grumpy codger, you hit the nail SQAR on the head!

krossk 03-07-2006 09:34 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
Personally, I think it is useful, but it should only be added to the post if the post is made by using the "Reply To" button on a specific post. If the Generic "Post Reply" button at the bottom of the page is used, then it should be omitted.

scolpit 03-07-2006 09:42 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
Well... in reply to krossk... i would say.. remove this feature.

bubbagates 03-07-2006 09:46 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 

ORIGINAL: elenasgrumpy

I agree, throw it out. I've seen it cause many an argument. While you may in reality be commenting on something said 3 or 4 post prior, it says in reply to the last person posted. Then that person thinks your comments were directed at him personally & gets offended. From there the thread heads straight south until it gets too far out of hand & by the time Ken sees where the thread has gone, the original thread itself has been forgotten entirely & Ken has had enough & it's lock-down time.
As you will see I used the reply link in the top right corner to reply to post #2, then used the quote button in the top left corner to copy Mark's comments. It now says "in reply to elanasgrumpy" and not the last post in the thread but actually who I replied to.

elenasgrumpy 03-07-2006 09:59 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
Oh sure, now that Bubba day has officially come & gone, now you have all the answers:eek: where were you yesterday mister?:D


"Grumpy Codger"?[sm=punching.gif] Who, What, Where did he go? Hold me back, I might lose this fight![&:]

elenasgrumpy 03-07-2006 10:02 AM

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By the way Bill I hope all is well with your Family, I saw your post yesterday explaining your recent abscense. Best wishes from mine to yours!!

bubbagates 03-07-2006 10:12 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
I appreciate that Mark. I certainly do.

I just re-read my earlier post and it sounded a tad bit negative. It really was not meant that way as I was just showing that it could be done as everyone was hoping for.

Just like yesterday when someone pointed to me that there was a glossary for R/C terms and I did not know it even existed. <shrug> So see I'm also not totally up on the workings of the RCU software. But ya gotta admit, it does allot and that's not including all the custom stuff that has been written into it over time.

burgh_guy61 03-07-2006 10:12 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
Personally i never paid to much attention to it, but i also have seen it cause some miss understandings as mentioned. This is by no means directed at anyone, but one thing i have learned in this hobby you got to grow thick skin and learn to laugh at yourself because sooner or later you will get some ribbing at the field:D

bruce88123 03-07-2006 10:17 AM

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Gosh mark, in post #10 you replied to yourself. Is that the same as talking to yourself? [sm=bananahead.gif]

piper_chuck 03-07-2006 10:32 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
I vote to keep the function. I participate regularly in a couple boards that don't have this function and it's even more confusing. I also participate in one that doesn't even have a convenient quote function, talk about painful! ;)

Anyway, 99% of the time I use the reply button that is within the box of an individual post. This ensures that the reply to field in my post has the correct person (note what it says in this post). I also frequently include some or all of the person's post if I feel doing so will make the context of my comment more clear. Examples of this would extracting a small portion of the post, such as a question, or quoting a specific post when the person I am responding to recently made more than one post. This certainly is more work than just hitting the add reply button at the top or bottom of the thread, but I think it helps put my replies in context.

bubbagates 03-07-2006 10:41 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 

ORIGINAL: bruce88123

Gosh mark, in post #10 you replied to yourself. Is that the same as talking to yourself? [sm=bananahead.gif]
What's even worse is he answered himslef. Now if he gets into an argument with himself and loses then he has real problems [X(]

Mode One 03-07-2006 11:04 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
Accidental double post again, sorry!

Mode One 03-07-2006 11:07 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
Huh, Piper and I disagree for once! Who'd a thunk it!

If you use the "Reply" button, great! If you don't then the reply is to the person posting just ahead of you, whether that is to whom you are replying or not. You don't feel this is confusing? Can you explain why you don't?

bruce88123 03-07-2006 11:08 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
Mode One - You could always show the courtesy of addressing your replies if needed. Doesn't take long.

elenasgrumpy 03-07-2006 11:14 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 


ORIGINAL: bubbagates


ORIGINAL: bruce88123

Gosh mark, in post #10 you replied to yourself. Is that the same as talking to yourself? [sm=bananahead.gif]
What's even worse is he answered himslef. Now if he gets into an argument with himself and loses then he has real problems [X(]

Okay I don't remember anything being discussed about Tuesady being "Pick On Grumpy Day!" But if it is now, when should I expect my Moderator check in the mail?[sm=idea.gif]

Mode One 03-07-2006 11:16 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
I'm discourtious?!?

elenasgrumpy 03-07-2006 11:35 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
Heck I didn't even know how to do the reply, then quote thing till Bill just showed his example this morning. And I haven't figured out how to use just the portion of the quote that is relevant like Chuck was talking about. Guess I can pretty much forget about that Moderator check huh?[:@]

Now that I have learned how to fly, where do I find a buddy box & Instructor for this confuser I'm playing on?:eek:

piper_chuck 03-07-2006 11:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: elenasgrumpy
And I haven't figured out how to use just the portion of the quote that is relevant like Chuck was talking about.
Give me a few minutes, I'll make an example of you while I'm eating lunch. ;)

elenasgrumpy 03-07-2006 11:51 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 


ORIGINAL: piper_chuck


ORIGINAL: elenasgrumpy
And I haven't figured out how to use just the portion of the quote that is relevant like Chuck was talking about.
Give me a few minutes, I'll make an example of you while I'm eating lunch. ;)

Example of me? Now you're scaring me. Am I gonna get bloody on this one?[sm=confused.gif]

bruce88123 03-07-2006 12:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mode One

I'm discourtious?!?
I didn't say that. I stated that it would be a courtesy to address your comments to make sure the right person received the comment.

piper_chuck 03-07-2006 12:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: elenasgrumpy



ORIGINAL: piper_chuck


ORIGINAL: elenasgrumpy
And I haven't figured out how to use just the portion of the quote that is relevant like Chuck was talking about.
Give me a few minutes, I'll make an example of you while I'm eating lunch. ;)
Example of me? Now you're scaring me. Am I gonna get bloody on this one?[sm=confused.gif]
Ok, lunch is over. Nobody's going to get bloody. I put it in a picture because the quotes have a habit of disappearing.

Edit: added a second example, and then fixed it.

piper_chuck 03-07-2006 12:50 PM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 

ORIGINAL: Mode One

Huh, Piper and I disagree for once! Who'd a thunk it!
Go figure!

ORIGINAL: Mode One

If you use the "Reply" button, great! If you don't then the reply is to the person posting just ahead of you, whether that is to whom you are replying or not. You don't feel this is confusing? Can you explain why you don't?
Here's a test, to whom is this post replying? ;) Nope, I'm not talking to myself (at least not THIS time).

If you put the post in context, by quoting, mentioning the person's screen name, or writing what you're commenting on, it doesn't matter that the reply to field is wrong. However, if you actually are replying to the last post, the post reply button field will be correct.

elenasgrumpy 03-07-2006 01:52 PM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 


ORIGINAL: bubbagates


ORIGINAL: elenasgrumpy

I agree, throw it out. I've seen it cause many an argument. While you may in reality be commenting on something said 3 or 4 post prior, it says in reply to the last person posted. Then that person thinks your comments were directed at him personally & gets offended. .
then used the quote button in the top left corner to copy Mark's comments. buIt now says "in reply to elanasgrumpy" and not the last post in the thread t actually who I replied to.
This has been a test of the RCU emergency broadcast network. This is only a test. Had this been an actual emergency you would have been informed to go to the LHS & purchase 1 gallon of fuel & rush to the nearest flying field!

elenasgrumpy 03-07-2006 01:53 PM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
Bruce, Chuck, Thanks I think I got it.[8D]

krossk 03-07-2006 01:56 PM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 

ORIGINAL: elenasgrumpy

This has been a test of the RCU emergency broadcast network. This is only a test. Had this been an actual emergency you would have been informed to go to the LHS & purchase 1 gallon of fuel & rush to the nearest flying field!
DANG! I had keys in hand and was loading up the plane! [sm=disappointed.gif]
I guess now I gotta go back to work.[:'(]

Mode One 03-07-2006 01:57 PM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
If you use the reply button, the post will be directed toward the person you are replying to. If you don't, the reply will be to whom ever posts previous to you. On occasions I have been replying to the last person to post, only to have someone place another post, before I can finish mine. My post then automatically gets miss directed to the newest person. Therefore, I think the automatic "Reply To___ " feature is a stupid feature and I think RCU and it's users would be better served, if it was simply removed.

I'm not talking about using the Reply, Quote, Edit or Fwd. buttons here! They are the best way to get your point across and addressed to the proper person. Most all here understand how they work and some even use them; but, I am not talking about them!

So far, in all the responses, nobody has convinced me of the automatic reply process's merit.

Possibly this is a feature which can't be removed, as it is how the forum program functions. As long as the R/CU forum has been in existence and this stupid function along with it, I would think it would have been removed long ago!

piper_chuck 03-07-2006 02:12 PM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
RCU suggestion forum: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/forumid_47/tt.htm . They will give your suggestion the attention it deserves.

bruce88123 03-07-2006 02:18 PM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
Perhaps nobody has whined loud enough before. :D

carrellh 03-07-2006 02:30 PM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
I think they should get rid of the "post reply" button and the "fast reply" box. Then you'd have to click on the post you are replying to. No confusion.

Mode One 03-12-2006 07:53 AM

RE: (In reply to WHOM)
 
I certainly am good at picking topics few actually have an interest in. No reply, explaination or rebuttle from the moderators, either!

Chuck, I thought I'd see if there was interest in this topic. If there was, then I would expect R/CU would take some action. Like I said, I wanted to post the question where there was some traffic and where I visited often. That's why I didn't post this in the RCU Suggestion Forum.

I thought I'd bring this forward for folks to have an opportunity to respond too, again. If it dies this time, she'll just wonder off onto an ice flow and we'll be done with it.


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